Hi,
I am sorry but i dont have a clou about that.
I can tell you that the number 250 linnen thread is comparable to nr 140 egyptian cotton. Most of my pattern books gives the number required for each lace. The eldest laces i can make with my tecknique is Tonder laces, with tulle ground, they started this in the end of 18th century. Most of these are worked with 250 linnen thread, or some wich are finer with 300 - 350. It all depends of the fine tulle ground, the finer it is, the finer thread. But i must admit, it is seldom i sit at my lacepillow these days, embroidery takes up most of my time. I have however started to make silk laces, its easy to get fine threads in silk, and they look and feels better than cotton. The "tangled garden"- caraco jacket i am making, is going to have sleave frills with a reconstrukted lace i made from "Costume in Detail" having chenille as a gimp.

Bjarne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] white embroidery


This might be a good time to inquire- what do these numbers mean?
I know it is a sizing reference, but how do they apply? Bigger number neams
smaller thread, but how much smaller is 80 thread half as thick (diameter
only) as 40 thread? Or does a certain length/skein of 80 weigh half as much as the same amount of 40? Is there a handy reference to see/feel the various
size categories?
Thanks much in advance, Betsy (occasional spinner, but not of linen, yet)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:07 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

Hi,
For such fine laces you need a thread of the size 250- 350.
The thinnest you can get these days is 140, wich would be almost doubble as
thick as required.
All the worlds lacemakers who makes the old laces, needs to use cotton
thread because they cant get thin enough flax thread. I have heard some,
using polyesther thread, wich i think is chrazy, but you know, world is full

of strange people.........

Bjarne


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