For what it's worth, my Lucy Barton "Historic Costume for the Stage" says, in the Early Georgian section, 1700-1750, "Costume (could consist) of but one dress or of a gown over bodice and petticoat..." and "Gowns open over under bodices might be laced across or left open to show ruffles or lace. Over gowns were usually open in front; dresses worn without gowns were as often laced up the back." Maybe these are over gowns, worn over a back laced dress. The shape of the body would be achieved by the laced under dress and the over gown was one piece, worn over the other layer, to change the look of the outfit Sharon C..
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:42 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dress type Hi, This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress. Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt would be attached to the bodice. Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it would be attached to the back of the skirt at the middle of the bodice, and then the pointed bodice would be pinned in the front over the skirt? What i would be very interrested in was how the cut would have ben like in the back, perhaps the fourreau style or the mantua style with sewn down pleats? It is strange that all costume historians leaved this type out, because it surely was very popular, also in Denmark. Besides its not as much fabric consuming as a francaise is or anglaise for that matter, because it only has one skirt. Bjarne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] dress type > At 13:00 12/11/2006, you wrote: >>I have seen this dress. In the original movie, The >>King And I, Anna is wearing one during the State >>Dinner seen when she is dancung with Yul Brenner. >> >>--- Diana Habra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > > I have finally found a propper picture to show. >> > This is a painting of the >> > > view over the thames. Its from the mid century. >> > You can clearly see that >> > > the >> > > ladies dresses dont have the sack backed trains in >> > the back. I have seen >> > > this type of dress in many danish paintings two, >> > yeat this type of dress >> > > is >> > > never spoken of in any history books. >> > > So i ask you! >> > > Please take a look at this painting wich i >> > uploaded, it is cropped just to >> > > show the persons, and its ben magnified a lot, so >> > its not the best >> > > quality. >> > > What is this dress called? Is it bodice and skirt, >> > or is the skirt >> > > attached >> > > to the bodice? >> > > I am so curious to hear what you think! >> > > >> > > http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/thames.htm >> > >> > To me it looks like a version of the "Anglaise" >> > style dress. Or am I >> > missing something? >> > >> > If they are Anglaise dresses, then the skirt is >> > attached to the bodice, >> > they close in the front with small straight pins, >> > and the bottom of the >> > bodice comes to a point in the front and back. The >> > skirt is also pleated >> > to the bodice all the way around. >> > >> > Hope that helps! > > This is taken from a painting by Canaletto in 1747. It's one of his London > from the Thames paintings. Here is the full painting. > > http://www.abcgallery.com/C/canaletto/canaletto31.html (I hope). > > Are there dresses like this in "Fitting and Proper", or "Costume > Close-up", or "Costume in Detail", or "Historic Fashion in Detail"? (the > 18th century one.) I'm away from my books and can't check right now. > > Suzi > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
