Stripes are easy to weave, no special loom technology required. However, most pre-modern dyes were not fast in linen, so if you wove a striped linen over time it would fade to being monochrome, plus, linen wasn't used for outerwear that much, so why bother wasting dye? This leaves mainly wool, and throughout most of history, wool was woven with the intent of being fulled, a process that felts the fibers together, which would blur and obscure your stripes. And, yes, a lot of wool was dyed in the piece, after weaving.

There's also a theory that stripes were not just unfashionable but regarded as somewhat unholy during some parts of the middle ages, but I've heard experts take both pro and con on whether that was really the case, as well as when and where it might have been the case if it were. Here's a book about the theory: http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Cloth-History-Stripes/dp/0743472578/ sr=1-9/qid=1165363714/ref=sr_1_9/002-1662157-1188053?ie=UTF8&s=books
_The Devil's Cloth: A History of Stripes_
by Michel Pastoreau, translated by Jody Gladding

Have fun.
Lauren

On Dec 5, 2006, at 6:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But, are the striped hosen woven that way, or are they pieced? I was thinking I had seen an English doublet

somewhere that looked like one of Bella's examples, but I can't find it now. I thought the stripes were

probably applied ribbon, rather than woven, anyway.



Those pictures from Germany are a little earlier than my period of interest (1530-1600), so I hadn't seen

them. They're interesting, though.



So it isn't that they couldn't weave stripes or that they'd never seen them. But why were they so rare?

Does it require a special loom technology to weave stripes? It seems like they are only appearing on

brocade-type fabrics, but I would have thought you could make stripes on any loom. Were stripes just not

fashionable for some reason? Or was it the practice in Europe to dye most fabrics after they were woven,

making stripes impossible?



Tea Rose, who isn't making an outfit, just being curious.



Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:52:46 -0600

From: "E House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: striped skirt

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Are stripes ever found anywhere outside of Italy?



If you want to crossdress, there are plenty of 15th & early 16thC

Franco-Flemish & German males wearing stripes! Especially striped hosen,

which is an interesting effect.



-E House



Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:21:54 -0600
From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re: striped skirt

Yes, You can find stripes in Germanic men and women's outfits.
Men
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Robert_Campin_001.jpg

women
this one you kind o' miss, the woman in yellow has a brocade [diagonal?]
stripes, monochromatic
http://tinyurl.com/ylxjrk
http://tinyurl.com/yjqfsv

De






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