Yes, that's among the problems for me -- if a standard loom width was in the 22 to 36-inch range, well, they are lucky they were skinnier than we are, and that fabric will skew when tugged at the corners. But the woman blacksmith's apron in particular seems to be sort of pulling and draping as if the shoulder straps were originally part of the horizontal somehow. Having just played with a nice 40-inch hemmed linen square I happen to have here, I find that while some of those drapes do happen with it, a lot of the look in the pictures is more bias-y somehow. The straight-cut square makes even more drapes and folds than I'm seeing in the apron pictures. So I wonder if these simple aprons were cut on the diagonal. But the way the bottom hems are straight makes me doubt this. I will be mucking about with linen over the next week or so for other reasons anyway (I have shifts and veils and caps and coifs to make!) and will try some experiments in the apron direction while I am at it.
Lauren
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:01 PM, Jean Waddie wrote:

These make me wonder whether the supposedly square / rectangular waist aprons, without a separate waistband, are extended in a similar way to provide ties. You need an extremely large square to be able to just tie the corners around your waist. But it does seem very wasteful if they are cut in one piece as they seem to be.

Jean

Lauren Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
It looks like waist-height aprons were often a square of linen with the top corners tied behind the back. In these Manesse Codex aprons, the smiths' aprons look as if they could be tied like napkins around the neck.

The seed-sower here in October of The Tres Riches Heures du Duc de Barry http://humanities.uchicago.edu/images/heures/october.jpg is definitely wearing some kind of simple square or rectangle tied round the neck.

But this seed-sower seems to have a more constructed version:
http://classes.bnf.fr/idrisi/grand/1_04.htm
(Peasants in the field in Le Régime des princes)

A woman blacksmith and a man in The Holkham Bible Picture Book c. 1327-1335, http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/medieval/year/ large2163.html, seem to have aprons where the napkin has been slashed somehow to provide shoulder straps and waist ties.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how these bib aprons might have been shaped or constructed?

Thanks for your thoughts.
Lauren
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On Jan 13, 2007, at 3:51 PM, otsisto wrote:

And the Manesse Codex but men.
1340
http://www.tempora-nostra.de/tempora-nostra/manesse.php? id=203&tfl=124

But not the waist tie ones.
De


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