Ingrid, I can't help you a bit, but am wondering if there aren't some other 
lists for where you might get some help.  I will forward to my Croft list 
(they do a lot of spinning and weaving and dyeing.) Maybe someone there will 
know, or know of a group which will know.

Sg


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From: "Ingrid G. Storrø" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Isabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Dyeing pots 350-575 AD?


Hi, all! I have a question that's tangentially relevant to natural
dyeing of textiles in the period from 350-575 AD. I know there are many
consummate dyers on the list, so maybe somebody here will know!

A friend of mine is writing her Master's thesis on ceramic vessels in
Norway in the period mentioned, and she has a theory that some of them
may have been used to dye small amounts of thread or other textile
matter. Specifically for this she's looking at bucket-shaped pottery,
probably earthenware burned at temperatures between 650-800 degrees
Celsius. An illustration can be found here, it's the one at the bottom
right:
http://www.ub.uib.no/asp/elpub.asp?PublName=Vestlandske&aar=1&?sp=1&ep=177&pn=119
These vessel are fairly heat resistant as they are tempered with
asbestos or soap-stone material. This means they will dispach heat
evenly to the content over a long period after being heated.

So here's the rub: these vessels, like most ceramics found from the
period, are usually fairly small. Apparently cooking pots normally held
between 4-8 litres. These bucket-shaped ones in her material range from
0.8 litres to 17 litres, with an average of 1.5 litres. To me this
sounds like most of them are too small to dye much in - but then I've
never really done much yarn dyeing.

So, to the point of my long and winding question: does anybody have any
thoughts about or, even better, references to any of the following:

- Would these vessels be too small to dye in, or is it likely that they
  could have been used because larger vessels just weren't that normal?

- Any books or serious websites that go into techniques and materials
  used for dyeing specifically for this period?

- There are examples from the period of textiles that would have been
  yarn dyed, for example the tablet-woven bands from Evebø, Høgom and
  Snartemo finds. At Snartemo the bands are woven from horsehair (tail
  hair) which was dyed yellow, white (probably undyed?), red and blue.
  What dyestuffs would have been used? I would guess weld, madder or
  kermes, and woad. Does that sound likely? The reason why I ask is that
  these are all dyestuffs that would require some sort of heating in a
  Scandinavian climate, which might rule out wooden vessels for dyeing.
  I suppose you could set a woad fermentation vat without any additional
  heat, but it might be difficult to get it to work properly. So I guess
  the question would actually be: does anybody know of dyestuffs that
  would give these colours _without_ the addition of heat?

Um, I think that's all I can think of right now. It's potentially a
huge, complex question, I know, but if anybody could point me to any
sources or share their own experiences I'd be grateful. :)

Ingrid

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