I totally agree with you. Those long sleeves and high neck are more of a
waking dress. I made a similar one - smaller bustle - about 9 years ago.
I don't think this will post to the general h-costume community, but for
what it's worth I agree with you. I also live in the LA area and am
planning on seeing the exhibit soon.
Paula S.
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I would appreciate some feedback from the list members on this item that is
nagging at me.
The Autry Museum here in Los Angeles has just opened a new exhibit called
"California Style: Art and Fashion from the California Historical Society".
Here is a link to the museum's main page:
http://www.autrynationalcenter.org/
One of the items they are using to showcase the exhibit is right there on
the front page, a red velvet dress circa 1883. Here's a link to the page on
the dress itself: http://www.autrynationalcenter.org/california4.php
The thing that is really nagging at me is they keep calling it an evening
dress and it really isn't an evening. You =might= get away with calling it
a "dinner" dress, but not an evening dress proper. Granted, I'm a costumer,
so I tend to notice these details, but that mis-identification seems pretty
blatant to me, and I was wondering if it struck anyone else that way, too.
Thanks for your input,
Julie
PS - This isn't the first time I've encountered the mis-identification of a
costume at the Autry. Several years ago they had two dresses on display in
the front lobby that were very clearly mid-1850's, and yet the card
identified them as 1873. Trust me, no way were these dresses from 1873.
They were made from very delicate muslin, stamped with a geometric floral
pattern, full bell-shaped skirts, without even the slightest hint yet of
even the elliptical shape that was to come in the 1860's, let alone a
bustle silhouette (and no, they weren't displayed wrong). They both had
straight waists, no curve or point at all, long bishop-type sleeves ending
in a buttoned cuff. One buttoned down the front, one hooked down the back
(lovely cartridge pleating on both dresses), and so on. There was enough
attention to fashionable detail that the person who made the dresses did
=not= make them 20 years out of style. I put a comment card in at the front
desk and some time later actually received a call from the person who
(ostensibly) donated the gowns to the museum. Said they were made by an
ancestor (great grandmother or something like that) who made them when she
first came to the US in the 1870's. I'm afraid I argued with him, cited
several standard costume texts that he could reference for comparison,
mentioned all the points I stated above, but he was...unconvinced, shall we
say.
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