Are you talking about the hanging sleeve or the "Leg O' Mutton" type sleeve.  I 
made the latter sleeves for "A Suitable Gown for Her Majesty" and was 
completely successful stuffing them with (unprinted) newspaper and some fine 
netting!.  There was a smaller inner sleeve which had an opening at the seam.  
We just replaced the paper if it got too smooshed.  

I aslo used a strip of rigelene 
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 for the hanging sleeve.  I made casing inside the top of the sleeve, slid the 
rigelene in, and used a pin to hold it in place.  (makes storage easier w/o it)

I have also made actual sleeve farthingales for a mahoitered sleeve using 
rigelene.  This is closer to a true sleeve farthingale, but even in this case 
the rigelene was incorporated into a two part sleeve cap.

If you'd like pictures of either, I can drum them up probably.  I lost all the 
links for my diary on the first dress and haven't bothered (bad me) to fix them 
yet.

Sg
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cin<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: h-cost<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:54 PM
  Subject: [h-cost] sleeve verthingales (farthingales)


  Gentle H-costumers,
  I tried asking this question yesterday on the Tudor Tailor mailing
  list with no success.  Perhaps if I cast my net a little wider, I'll
  get an answer...  I'd settle for some speculation, idle conjecture or
  armchair experimentation.
  I there anyone out there in Tudor-land that has made the 1580-90s
  "sleeve verthingales" and wants to share success stories or failed
  experiments?

  I'm interested in creating the sleeves-bigger-than-torso look of the
  Mary Fitton, Elizabeth Buxton, Eleanor Herbert, Eliz Finch, Alice
  Knollys, Mary Rogers, Elizabeth I by John Bettes, Elizabeth I Jesus
  College at Oxford, Elizabeth I "Ermine" and Elizabeth I Grenwich
  portraits. Another good source portrait is Unknown Lady by Wm Segar.
  Back views of these sleeves also seen in "Ball at the court of Henri
  III".
  --cin
  Cynthia Barnes
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