I wear a pocket in that style (with my own design of embroidery) with my 1640s 
outfit, because I like them and it doesn't show, but I, too, understood that 
they were really 18th century. I thought I had read that 17th century ones were 
plain.

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:40:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Ren gowns and purses/pouches
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I remember reading that it was early 1600s but I am not 100% sure of the
year 20. It was list in either Elizabethan or Jacobean.

De

-----Original Message-----

At 00:02 06/05/2008, you wrote:
>I think it was from the Museum of London site. The pocket I believe said
>that it was listed at about 1620. There are very few pockets from pre1600s.
>Presently I can not find the site.

The embroidery seems very 18th century to me - are you sure it was
1620? I have looked at a large number of pockets, and pictures of,
for a small project I am working on, and have never seen one dated
that early. Some of the MoL items are not always dated accurately, or
with a very wide range of dates, as I have found while working there,
as a volunteer.

Suzi

>De
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Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby

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