Thanks for the link and the tip - it always helps to know which magic word will get you close to the actual item you want!
Looking forward to a lovely evening of museum-surfing, Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO "You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..." wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ginni Morgan Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:26 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Question on 16thcent smocks/camiciae -additionalinformation The shift is part of the Filmer Collection at Platt Hall in Manchester. You can go online at http://www.manchestergalleries.org/the-collections and search the collection. You need to specify "costume" in the main section and "linen" (for material) and "shift" (for item type) in the detailed search. That will pull of a page on which this particular shift appears. It is dated to 1560-1580. Ginni >>> Frank A Thallas Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/13/08 3:41 PM >>> Kewl! So far I haven't gone off the historical path with mine, unless this one hnas been re-worked at some point (though I'm sure museum would note that.) Why the slit, I wonder? In the neckline? Is the neck smaller that we would expect, or about what we see in portraits? And BTW, do you know the approximate year of this smock? Thanks for sharing! Liadain Gonna start saving up for that trip to England... THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO "You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..." wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ginni Morgan Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:31 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Question on 16th cent smocks/camiciae - additionalinformation In the meantime, I looked at the one photograph she gave me and it appears that the garment has a yoke with a square neck and a slit opening on the back side. The yoke is fully lined with the seam turned to the inside and what appears to be a line of topstitching worked along the edge just inside the neckline. I would guess the topstitching is only about a *" or less from the edge. There is a band of blackwork (about 1" wide) that runs completely around the neck and does not show through on the facing. The sleeves have three bands of blackwork running the length of each sleeve. Ginni _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
