Reporting on your conversation with Frank is about it.  Also, the JR Clancy
application.
Thanks, let me know if you have any questions.


Meredith Moseley-Bennett
Certification Coordinator
Entertainment Technician Certification Program-ETCP
875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005
NYC, NY 10001
Phone:  212.244.1505
Fax:  212.244.1502





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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples) (paige)
   2. Re: Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples) (paige)
   3. Re: Corsetry issues- interior pillows? (Hanna Zickermann)
   4. Re: Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples)
      (Rebecca Schmitt)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:12:03 -0400
From: "paige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples)
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Good Day,
    Please try using a cotton camisole under the corset and per Renaissance 
Corp, larger ladies will roll small tea towels (white only it seems) and 
place under the breasts but I find this bothersome and  they can slip..
Personally, I hate trying to be a size 4-6 when I am a size 20, and my 
corsets do not close all the way in back...I like to breath too much. No one

sees them and the bodice or surcoats cover the backs anyway and on hotter 
days that helps stay a wee bit cooler.
Ladies , we no longer need to kill ourselves. By the end of the day it is 
nice to get out of a corset but I find my back hurts less from wearing one 
and have thought on several days why not wear one all the time...just not so

tight one can not breath.

Hope my wee input helps on this issue...
Ladye Paige in Virginia



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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:25:36 -0400
From: "paige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples)
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Hello,
    I too have that tummy area problem but have used a tabbed corset for 
many years but never lace  it all the way up the back.  Tabs come over the 
hip area slightly and when  I am being laced,  I ask someone to start at 
waist not bottom of corset, and I .never close the corset all the way ( I 
like to breath ) unless some deft gentleman who my be assisting with the 
chore manages to lace it tighter than usual  and gets the back closer 
together...you might find your tummy area won't poof so much when sitting 
and the more open back of the corset lets you back stay cooler and who is 
seeing it...only you know ....with areas such as VA, MD and PA, high 
humidity is quite an issue and then so is Wisconsin area...we just want to 
look the part...we are not really needing to be size 4-5 waists and 5' 
frames (unless that is what you are)..lets not forget that people have 
changed in our frame build since the 1500-1600's.
By the way, I wear this same corset for Renn Clothing, Victorian and now my 
Colonial. My corset fits nicely and why fool with another style that might 
not be as comfortable...The corset is really intended to give a smooth 
appearance is it not?

Enough input from a size 20, nearing 60's lady in Va.

Ladye Paige 



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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:25:35 +0200
From: Hanna Zickermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues- interior pillows?
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The pillows I?ve seen in theatrical costumes 
appear to be as wide as the distance between the 
two lowest points of an underwire bra?s wires and 
reach down to the point where the ribs emerge 
from the breast bone, sort of a padded triangle in the corset.
Another option is to put small pads (about the 
size of shoulderpads, but not bent) right under 
each breast. This is also good for ladies with 
small breasts - there are only a few days of the 
month when I have an A-cup, but the pads let me 
have really pretty "apples" in rococo-neckline. ;-)

Hanna


At 23:20 03.10.2008, you wrote:
>ok honey, everybodies brests are different and 
>place slightly differently. the best way to do 
>it is to  do a mock up corset ouf ot muslin then 
>try it on and not where the"gap" under the 
>breasts is.. and make a ittle cotton or linen 
>pillow or roll and tack it in..it will take a 
>little trial and eror but it int that hard.
>
>
>Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL
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>I am made for great things by GOD
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>and walk with Pride!!!!
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>Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
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>see me dance
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0
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>--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Natalie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: Natalie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues- interior pillows?
>To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:11 PM
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>Sorry, I should have been more clear. By sources, I meant some images of
>how this is done currently. I'm not worried about accuracy or
>authenticity of my undies :) Just comfort and the right silhouette.
>
>Natalie
> >
> > Haven't got doc for it. Wasn't my corset.
> >
> > It was a way of coping with the solid (often wood) busk in the front
> > of an Elizabethan corset. Many of my friends at faire put in a firm
> > "twinkie" sized support pillow, without which they would not
>have been
> > able to achieve the right silhouette.
> >
> > Without the pillow they would have had over-mashed breasts, falling
> > breasts, or (with a less-rigid busk to compensate) a non-flat front.
> > None of them would have matched the silhouette represented in
> > portraits and sculpture.
> >
> > If you're doing something for competition, I would worry about
> > documentation. If you're using machine stitching and other modern
> > techniques to make your costume, I wouldn't worry. If it's a
>cheat,
> > it's a completely invisible cheat.
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:34:34 -0500
From: "Rebecca Schmitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples)
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We have a member of our guilde at Bristol who has cardiac issues and is
unable to wear anything too binding. Even a well-fitted corset would cause
problems for her.

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Rebecca Schmitt
aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire
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