In a message dated 5/6/2009 7:37:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hmmm.... that neckline edge is a bit odd... even discounting the  
fringe.  Is it thickened a bit?


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I think that may just be the effect of the fringe. Perhaps it flopped  over 
and they had to do something to it to keep it upright.
 
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And the tops of the sleeves are not as smooth as I would expect for  CW 
or early Vic. 
 
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Yes, I noticed that. It's not just that they seem full, but they look  
sloppy. Well, for all we know, wardrobe had to make the thing over  night.
 
An early 1850's sleeve would be cut in 2 pieces most likely....being  
derived from the tight 1840's sleeve, so would fit smoothly into the armseye.  
By 
the end of the decade and into the 1860's the pagoda sleeve is often flat  
pleated into the armseye...sometimes a box pleat or two at the back, smooth 
in  front and underneath...which are sewn down a bit to cling to the upper 
arm  before opening up into a bell. Janet Arnold shows this on 2 gowns I 
believe.  But however cut the general idea is a lowered and tight beginning to 
the  sleeve. Like I said, the sleeve on the costume just looks sloppy.
 
And, of course, it's not history. It's a  fantasy.



 
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