Interesting! Thanks! I didn't think she looked "quite right" but couldn't decide why - wrong person? Victorian copy? Wasn't sure... But still an interesting blackwork bit I don't have in my "collection"!
Liadain Off on a new track THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO "You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..." wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.tripod.com -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:10 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait? I've seen the painting on the net and we discussed this a while back. Please don't think I am a know-it all on this, but here is what I know and have studied. Here's the original story. A BBC correspondent has returned a Renaissance painting of Eleonora of Toledo to a German museum after discovering it was looted during World War II. Here's the story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5037002.stm ****************************************** However.....You know... I've been researching Eleonora and Co. for about 20 years. This picture does not look like Eleonora of Toledo, 2nd Duchess of Florence, to me. It looks like "our Eleonora's" niece Eleonora of Toledo, (she was the daughter of her brother Garcia). The younger Eleonora married Cosimo and Eleonora's youngest son Pietro (their 11th child)and was later murdered by him for supposed infidelity. (Not that he was any prize, but let's not go there...) The portrait in the BBC article is similar to at least 2 other paintings of the younger Eleonora I know of. I think the dress is in this portrait too late in style for "our Eleonora"-- the standing collar is a much later style. "Our" Eleonora had a very distinctive style that she brought with her to Florence and used it for her official and family portraits throughout her life. Also, if it was by Allori, I think he would have painted a more flattering portrait, such as the one in Duke Francesco's Studiolo, which made her look beautiful and healthy, just the was Francesco wanted to remember his mom. Alorri painting would have been posthumous anyway... Bronzino's portraits of "our" Eleonora show her very gaunt toward the end of her life and her style of clothing is consistent. Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City 11 Beach Street New York, New York 10013 212-226-5500 Home: 631-665-9505 cell: 516-635-1839 monicaspe...@optonline.net -----Original Message----- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:47 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait? While wandering the web last night, came upon this - http://www.needlework-tips-and-techniques.com/blackwork-cuff-on-an-italian-r enaissance-gown.html Has anyone seen this portrait before, or have any idea of its attribution? If it's real (Eleanor or not) I'd love to see a better image and have the provenance... (I ain't getting in the "true" and "faux" blackwork fight there.... ;-) ) Liadain "You get a wonderful view from the point of no return..." wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.tripod.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume