--- On Sat, 10/10/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Does anyone know where to get cloth of gold?  I'm looking for the real 
deal--largely for pricing and availability at this point.

(I've got at least a good enough supplier of cloth of mystery metal)
SUGGESTION
If I was looking for real "Cloth of Gold" for my garb, I start by searching 
the  www. for old-established Firms  - in England, France, and Italy, - that 
specialise in supplying Church vestments.  It won't be cheap, though, not with 
the current gold price running at over $600US per Troy ounce!
Why especially those Countries? 
There is a large Roman Catholic population in the Americas, and therefore an 
"occasional demand" for cloth of gold for [replacement or new] gorgeous 
copes,chasubles, altar cloths, &c. - but, IMHO, there is less perception in the 
American Catholic Community that such opulent display is acceptable while there 
is so much poverty in the world. 
Whereas, in Europe, it is a  centuries-old Catholic and Greek/Russian Orthodox 
tradition that celebrants vest themselves and the altars and shrines in 
gorgeous raiment - and I think in the Orthodox liturgical "guidelines", types 
of copes are actually specified for the various Seasons of the Religious Year.
. Also, the European Firms that specialise in supplying fabrics for Church use 
will have been doing it longer, the demand for gorgeous vestments is likely to 
be greater, and they are closer to the sources of supply - these days mostly 
wholesale manufacturers in China, where labour costs are still low.

REQUEST
Now, in return, can anyone point me to sources for black camlet and black 
sarcenet?
And does anyone know what was meant in the Exchequer Accounts of Henry VII for 
September,1485 by "chaungeable sarcenet"?

Cordially,
 Julian Wilson,
 in old Jersey



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