Sharon, I agree that a DIY gentleman is a keeper. I have told Dan that he has to stitich on all that gold lace. He of course agreed, but I'll believe it when I see it. Though he CAN sew on buttons.
Chris, thanks for the help. Extant portraits of Braddock are few and not helpful. The best we could do is REynolds' Captain Orme (1756): http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/sir-joshua-reynolds-captain-robert-orme and Griffings' Wounding of Braddock (admittedly a conjectural later illustration): http://www.lordnelsons.com/gallery/frontier/griffing/61z.htm Captain Orme was Braddock's aide and also a member of the Coldstream Guards, so we decided to go with that rather than with a more generic general officer, though if you know of any information on general officers of the period, I would be appreciative of the information. The lace pattern on Orme's coat is hard to see, but it appears to be the same as (or very similar to) the lace pattern Janice Ryan has illustrated on her 1750's officer's coat. So we are probably going to follow Janice's lead. Orme appears to be wearing buckskin breeches, but since Dan does not have leather breeches (and isn't going to have them for awhile, since they are waaaaaay down the wish list) we decided to go with the blue breeches in the Griffing illustration. Orme's waistcoat appears to be white with lotsa gold lace. It is likely that Braddock (and Orme) would have been wearing a field coat on campaign, but the Braddock portrayals Dan will be doing are in Alexandria VA prior to the campaign. So the dress coat is the winner, and Dan had better limber up his needle finger for sewing on all that lace. Thanks, Sharon and Chris, for the input. Jane > > I was hoping to have some good advice, but my appropriate text is for > 1768-96, so not early enough. However, the uniform of a general is > different from a regimental uniform (generals were "staff" rather than > belonging to any particular regiment), and may well have worn a buff > waistcoat and breeches, as they did in 1768. Not that that helps a > whole lot. Also it sounds like you are working from a specific > portrait, and he may not have been wearing an entirely regulation > outfit in the field. > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jane Pease wrote: > > First my sweetie Dan wanted to know if I could make him a 1750's (F&I War) > officer's coat for his portrayal of General Braddock next April. ?Nothing > fancy, > of course, not a lot of trim--just something simple. ?And he had a white > waistcoat and breeches, so no need to worry about them. ?Sounds do-able. > > > > Then he started studying portraits of the uniform of the Coldstream Guards, > Braddock's regiment. ?Seems its not quite so simple after all--about 30 yards > of > gold braid. ?Okay...... > > > > Then we looked at illustrations of Braddock's battle, and--darn, I do > > believe > those breeches are blue, not white. ?And he doesn't have blue breeches.... > > > > Then I got a look at his white waistcoat--it turned out to be 1770's, a far > cry from a 1750s waistcoat. ?Just will not do. So between now and April, I > will > be working on a fancy general officer's coat, breeches, AND waistcoat. ?And I > am > a very slow seamstress. ?Anyone know of a good source of midnight oil? > > > > Jane in No VA > > _______________________________________________ > > h-costume mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > > -- > -- Chris Bertani > www.goblinrevolution.org/costumes > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 20:30:24 -0800 (PST) > From: Cascio Michael > To: [email protected] > Subject: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Everyone, > ?? Since I don't have any pressing sewing to do for the holidays I've decided > to > use up some of my stash.? The top piece is a panne velvet which stretches.? I > have a simple dress pattern with a skirt seamed to a bodice but would like to > stabilize out the stretch.? The fabric stretches across the grain of the > fabric, > not?along the length.? I'd also like to do buttons instead of a zipper or > ties.? > Will lining the bodice stabilize the stretch??? Would I cut the lining on the > bias or the straight.? I'm considering tacking snowflake buttons at intervals > to > decorate the bodice and keep the layers together.? Any thoughts or > suggestions > would be greatly appreciated. > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > Cassandra > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:42:10 -0600 > From: Dawn > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed > > Cascio Michael wrote: > > Will lining the bodice stabilize the stretch? Would I cut the lining on > the bias or the straight. I'm considering tacking snowflake buttons at > intervals to decorate the bodice and keep the layers together. Any thoughts > or > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > I have used iron-on interfacing to stabilize panne, with pretty good > results. I ironed big sheets of it right onto the back of the fabric > before cutting out my bodice pieces. > > > Dawn > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:19:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Melody Watts > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet// Quesstion on ironing > it... > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dawn, > Did? ironing on the interfacing flatten the pile? to any degree ? > I have seen Panne velvet really cheap but was put off by the stretch factor, > I > wondered if fusable interfacing would cure this., but worried about the > pressing > making more problems then? it cured. > melody > > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dawn wrote: > > > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet > To: "Historical Costume" > Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:42 PM > > > Cascio Michael wrote: > >???Will lining the bodice stabilize the stretch????Would I cut the lining on > the bias or the straight.? I'm considering tacking snowflake buttons at > intervals to decorate the bodice and keep the layers together.? Any thoughts > or > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >? ? ? > I have used iron-on interfacing to stabilize panne, with pretty good results. > I > ironed big sheets of it right onto the back of the fabric before cutting out > my > bodice pieces. > > > Dawn > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:07:15 -0600 > From: "Kim Baird" > To: "'Historical Costume'" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet// Quesstion on ironing > it... > Message-ID: <9422b87e800549f6a2c154c9ad083...@anteckim> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would suggest using the KNIT iron-on interfacing, which will give some > stability, but not be stiff. It is available in white or black. > > Use a terry towel over the ironing board, and fuse with the velvet face > down. You can always experiment on one corner before fusing everything. > > Kim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Melody Watts > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:20 AM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet// Quesstion on ironing it... > > Dawn, > Did? ironing on the interfacing flatten the pile? to any degree ? > I have seen Panne velvet really cheap but was put off by the stretch factor, > I wondered if fusable interfacing would cure this., but worried about the > pressing making more problems then? it cured. > melody > > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dawn wrote: > > > From: Dawn > Subject: Re: [h-cost] lining for panne velvet > To: "Historical Costume" > Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:42 PM > > > Cascio Michael wrote: > >???Will lining the bodice stabilize the stretch????Would I cut the lining > on the bias or the straight.? I'm considering tacking snowflake buttons at > intervals to decorate the bodice and keep the layers together.? Any thoughts > or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >? ? ? > I have used iron-on interfacing to stabilize panne, with pretty good > results. I ironed big sheets of it right onto the back of the fabric before > cutting out my bodice pieces. > > > Dawn > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > End of h-costume Digest, Vol 8, Issue 393 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
