On Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Chris Laning wrote:


I think the other major distinguishing characteristic of what we call "denim" is that it has colored threads in one direction and white threads in the other. Offhand I don't know which is warp and which is weft, though. Anyone?

And of course paintings can't tell us what fibers were used for this very jeans-like material. The fabric in the paintings could well have been either linen (which takes indigo dye pretty well) or wool (which you'd expect for outer garments). Although cotton certainly existed and was used (especially in Italy) I'd want to find out more about _how_ cotton was used before I'd conclude that this is identical to modern denim. Cotton thread strong enough to use for weaving is a different thing than cotton batting used for stuffing (for which I think we have better pre-1800s documentation).

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If I interpret Maureen Fennell Mazzaoui's "The Italian Cotton Industry in the Later Middle Ages, 1100-1600" correctly, the Italian peasants were very likely wearing indigo-dyed cotton twill. Cotton was still a major product in Italy in the 17th century, and sturdy cotton twill fabrics would have been cheaper and more easily available to the lower classes than wool or linen.

Also, having dyed all three fabrics with indigo, the colors in the paintings are more indicative of indigo on cotton--indigo on wool in that saturation is either a very long dyebath or several trips through, which would make it more expensive. On linen it's pretty much the same. Cotton *loves* indigo--it sucks it right up. Wool and linen, not nearly so much.

Jen Getty
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