Hi,

> How does SERIALIZABLE isolation in MVCC mode compare to
SERIALIZABLE_SNAPSHOT? Aren't they the same thing?

I can only refer to Google, which found this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/craigfr/archive/2007/05/16/serializable-vs-snapshot-isolation-level.aspx

Regards,
Thomas




On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:10 PM, cowwoc <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi Thomas,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
>
> On 21/11/2013 6:43 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>
> > Does H2 implement Serializable Snapshot
>
>  Currently not, and I didn't plan to support it. In theory, it could be
> supported with the MVStore, but I don't currently think it's very important.
>
>
> How does SERIALIZABLE isolation in MVCC mode compare to
> SERIALIZABLE_SNAPSHOT? Aren't they the same thing?
>
> Thanks,
> Gili
>
>
>
>  Regards,
>  Thomas
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Gili <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thomas,
>>
>>  Can you please clarify how H2's implementation of MVCC interacts with
>> Transaction Isolation?
>>
>>    1. Is there a practical difference between READ_COMMITTED and
>>    REPEATABLE_READ in MVCC mode? Doesn't MVCC prevent READ_COMMITTED from
>>    seeing updates committed by other transactions (after the current
>>    transaction has already read the row once)? If so, aren't they identical?
>>    2. Same question for REPEATABLE_READ and SERIALIZABLE isolation in
>>    MVCC mode.
>>    3. Does H2 implement
>>    
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serializable_Snapshot_Isolation#Serializable_Snapshot_Isolation
>>  for
>>    MVCC? If not, do you plan on doing so in the future?
>>
>>  Thank you,
>> Gili
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:23:16 AM UTC-4, Gili wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thanks Thomas. So you're saying I can use other isolation modes with
>>> MVCC as I normally would?
>>>
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> On 23/06/2013 7:39 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  H2 only supports row level locks when using the MVCC mode. By the way,
>>> the plan is that in the future (with the MVStore), the MVCC mode will be
>>> the default mode.
>>>
>>>  Insert/delete operations don't wait for other operations that do not
>>> conflict. They wait for conflicting operations (changes on the same rows).
>>>
>>>  > What happens in the following scenario?
>>>
>>>  H2 uses "read committed" by default, so T1 will see the value from T2.
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Gili <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  Looking at http://www.h2database.com/html/advanced.html#mvcc,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. Does H2 only support table locks or MVCC? Or is there a way to
>>>>    get row locks without MVCC?
>>>>    2. Using MVCC, do insert/delete operations wait until all open
>>>>    transactions complete?
>>>>    3. Does this imply that open transactions will never experience
>>>>    insert/delete rows by other threads in mid-transaction?
>>>>    4. What happens in the following scenario?
>>>>
>>>> Database contains a single row: count[value=1]
>>>> T1: Open transaction
>>>> T2: Open transaction
>>>> T2: update count set value=2 where value=1
>>>> T2: commit
>>>> T1: select value from count
>>>>
>>>>  Will T1 see a value of 1 or 2?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>> Gili
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