I am very much in favor of this being an opt-in option at the end of  
the installer. I don't think we need to have this be more than a one  
time occurrence.

Chris

On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Chris Meller wrote:

> I was playing around with USVN (a web-based Subversion management  
> GUI), and one of the installer steps [1] was whether or not to check  
> for updates and submit server stats.
>
> I know we've talked previously about asking during install whether  
> or not we should check for updates (for paranoia reasons), but I'd  
> like to bring up discussion about adding a second option for  
> submitting stats. Often there are many things that projects have  
> trouble judging the availability of on the average host (versions,  
> extensions, etc.), and having some centralized collection mechanism  
> would greatly improve our ability to judge the extent we could  
> reliably anticipate such things. Ideally, I would also love to see  
> us publish these statistics in some manner so that the larger  
> community could benefit from our efforts.
>
> A few examples of things this could help with:
>
> - Our mbstring vs. iconv discussion largely centered around which  
> extension was more widely available
> - A question came up just the other day on IRC involving a problem  
> with the value of $_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME']. No one really knew if  
> that was valid or not - it was set, but not to a value we'd have  
> predicted. The reliability of other _SERVER variables is also  
> suspect at times.
> - Knowing which PHP versions are in use has a wealth of advantages  
> (duh)
> - Database driver and translation usage could help us target  
> resources more accurately
>
> Some basic information about your environment could be bottled up  
> locally and submitted at the same time as update checks are  
> performed (or at any other interval, via cron - it really wouldn't  
> matter) and it could always be turned off in the options at any time  
> if you'd opted-in during install. For bonus points, I suppose we  
> could add the ability to turn on and off the individual data points  
> we were collecting if, for example, the admin didn't want us  
> collecting $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] from its users.
>
> We would need a clear and firm privacy policy, but we were going to  
> do that for updates anyway. Most of the data would be pretty  
> harmless, certainly nothing I would worry about, and could  
> potentially also be scrubbed before being sent (knowing simply that  
> SCRIPT_NAME is set but not what it contains is somewhat less useful,  
> but still helpful, for example).
>
> This is one of those things that could really turn out to be as  
> simple or as complex as we care to make it, I simply wanted to throw  
> out an idea and get some basic feedback on it. Opinions?
>
> [1] http://chrismeller.com/dump/1a0b5268efd464c19258455b2bea3cb8.png
>
> >


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