On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Arthus Erea <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How long have you been using Habari? > I don't see any points of this question? Many have been using Habari for a long time and still can *suggest* a feature to be core. > > We strongly support the use of plugins instead of building bloat into > the core software. True. We encourage adding features through plugins rather than bloating the software itself. However, bloating is not the only reason here. As Owen pointed out, we would not want Habari to take sides in this rather controversial aspect. The reason why this seems as something that can be done from within the theme is because Habari outputs the raw commentator links rather than constructing the anchor element. Therefor, it makes more sense for the themer (and the theme user) to add that directly to the theme. After all, it's just a single instance within the comment "loop". > > There is no reason the average user can't install a plugin, especially > once we refine the process. The process itself is easy enough. Installing a plugin is as easy as most of the blogging tools and CMS's out there. You copy the plugin directory to the plugins directory, then activate the plugin. But if by refining the process you mean the ability to download from the future plugin directory directly into Habari, that would be neatly easier, yes. > > I'd even consider including the plugin as a core plugin. The reason that keeps this feature out of core is the same reason that would leave a plugin that provide the feature out of the download package. Ali B. / dmondark http://awhitebox.com > > > On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Realpolitik wrote: > > > > > I agree that an auto-nofollow is not for everyone in every case, but > > if the core software is targeted towards the general user, it's > > probably a good addition, especially if there is an on-off switch. > > > > On Apr 18, 11:33 am, Owen Winkler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Realpolitik wrote: > >>> I am aware that it's perfectly easy for a small blog to moderate > >>> comments before posting, but frequently administrators prefer to > >>> allow > >>> users to post at their leisure and just remove spam / offensive > >>> comments when they come across them. Additionally, if a large-scale > >>> popular blog requires moderation before posts are displayed then the > >>> discussion quality will be severely impacted. In both of these > >>> situations and more, it's useful to show user comments immediately > >>> after creation. > >> > >> Yes, I've been curious about this default behavior for a long > >> time. We > >> should have some basic settings in core that address the default > >> handling of new comments. > >> > >>> This brings me to my main point, it's probably a good idea to force, > >>> or have an option to force, the addition of 'nofollow' to the rel > >>> attribute in comment links, both in the comment content and the > >>> user's > >>> website link. This would help dissuade users from spamming with > >>> links > >>> to their own websites for the sake of increasing search engine > >>> rankings, and in doing so would prevent loss of the blog's own > >>> search > >>> relevance. > >> > >> I would prefer that Habari core stand aside from such contentious > >> topics. Plugins and themes can be written to handle applying extra > >> properties to these links. > >> > >> Here's information on nofollow itself: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow > >> > >> Here's the nofollow spec:http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-nofollow > >> > >> Here are some (questionable) reasons against nofollow: > http://nonofollow.net/11-reasons-against-nofollow/http://www.eatdrinksleepmovabletype.com/discussions/nofollow_is_no_good/ > >> > >> I'd really rather not start a thread on whether nofollow is good or > >> not, > >> but rather see if we can agree on whether it's something our core > >> software should address at all. > >> > >> That said, I would certainly rather expend my efforts extending the > >> Comment class to allow for additional kinds of comments (content > >> types > >> for comments) than implementing nofollow, and the plugin I would > >> inevitably need to write to disable it. > >> > >> Owen > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
