I am not on favor of tying this to any one system, e.g. making this  
only available if you muck around with the HiEngine. I think the  
engine us ctuslly quite nicebut I don't intend to ever use it.

I shouldn't be forced to learn a new language syntax to use this  
functionality. It should be agnostic to the theme engine that is  
calling it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Owen Winkler <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Arthus Erea wrote:
>>
>> Furthermore, there should be an option to disable the cache somewhere
>> in the UI. That would give tinkerers the ability to work on the  
>> theme,
>> then re-enable the cache when they're done.
>> Where should such an option be? In the theme config or in the main
>> settings page? (I'm leaning towards main settings.)
>
> Sounds fine to me.
>
>>> There really isn't a need to use that one directory, but it would  
>>> make
>>> it easier to route requests.  I imagine a rewrite rule that resolves
>>> to
>>> a single hook, where the file that the request asks for is passed  
>>> in.
>>> Plugins/Themes that can resolve the file simply return it, and the
>>> system takes care of putting the file where it belongs and managing
>>> versioning.  The plugin would call a specific function to clear a  
>>> file
>>> from the build cache.  Also, some logic for versioning and  
>>> appending a
>>> querystring to the URL (like .../style.css?6) would be handled by  
>>> the
>>> system.
>>
>> What would the benefit of the querystring be? Shouldn't there really
>> just be one version regardless?
>
> If the CSS is served properly, it will come with headers that set a  
> long
> client-side cache life.  This is a benefit because it will avoid the
> client from continuously requesting updates of the CSS from the  
> server.
>  The downside is that if the CSS is actually updated on the server,
> there's no way the client would know, since its cache settings tell it
> not to request updates.
>
> The remedy is to add a simple querystring with a version number.  The
> querystring is ignored by Apache, but the browser sees it as a new  
> URL,
> which circumvents its previous cache settings for that file.  The same
> file is served, but by adding the querystring, the client behaves as
> though the cache must be refreshed.
>
> Upon receiving the new file, it is once again cached, hopefully using
> the same settings as before, and will subsequently not be requested
> again until that querystring number is updated.
>
> This is a fairly standard method for implementing a solid client-side
> caching strategy, while still enabling server-side changes to  
> propagate
> to the client.
>
>> In terms of HiEngine, I wonder if we could actually run both PHP and
>> HiEngine at once on the generation. I'd see it working like this:
>> 1) We open a buffer to catch the output
>> 2) The stylesheet is included
>> 3) We run the resultant css through the HiEngine
>> 4) We output/cache the CSS
>>
>> Since most requests will be served from the cache, this shouldn't be
>> too much of a hassle.
>
> I'm not sure what this is meant to accomplish, but it seems  
> unnecessary.
>
> Owen
>
> >

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