Also remember that Owen just started a new job at Owncloud, so he is 
understandably busy. Also, leaves of absence are good for the nerves so to 
speak, and Owen has been in need of a break from Habari for a while.

On Aug 9, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Chris Meller <ch...@doesnthaveone.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't worry that anything is going to up and disappear in the next 
> couple of days, even if it does stay under Owen's account. He may not have 
> been on IRC, but he's still been accessible in other ways when needed, and 
> provided he can find a spare second or two.
> 
> Also remember that "donations" are basically to Owen, who would then be 
> responsible for paying taxes on them. Unless we could find some existing 
> tax-free entity that works with open source projects and which we were 
> comfortable basically "owning" all our assets, there's really no way around 
> *someone* eventually footing that (admittedly very minor now) bill in one way 
> or another.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Sean T. Evans <se...@morydd.net> wrote:
> If I had to guess, I'd suspect he's traveling. It's nearing the end of the 
> summer, so he may very well have taken his kids for one last adventure before 
> school starts.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Drew Heath wrote:
> Thank you for elaborating. I'm willing to "buy" a few months of server 
> hosting. Owen's absence from IRC and this list is worrying though.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Chris Meller <ch...@doesnthaveone.com> wrote:
> Sorry, Drew. We already have a plan for where to move so I didn't think you 
> still wanted an answer. 
> 
> To answer your question, we at one point ran Trac, which is a Python-based 
> beast of a machine killer. Since it is gone we run a Habari instance for the 
> blog and one for the addons directory (which includes some packaging and what 
> not overhead). Other than that there are a handful of cron jobs that run 
> between hourly and daily and the horridly outdated MediaWiki install (that is 
> bound to get us hacked eventually) that no one likes. 
> 
> In other words, pretty much nothing significant. A 512 droplet should be more 
> than enough after a bit of MySQL tuning. Though since Trac is gone, we could 
> probably fall back to SQLite for the Habari instances. Not sure what else 
> MediaWiki supports or if its even worth exploring.
> 
> If any of us had a little more time on our hands, we could actually switch to 
> Postgres so we actively have a testbed for it. But after migrating my site to 
> it, I'd not recommend that path for the unadventurous with no free time on 
> their hands. 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Drew Heath wrote:
> Imma ask again: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing
> 
> Can someone please tell me what sort of plan HP needs?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Chris Meller <ch...@doesnthaveone.com> wrote:
> Owen, the one who is still paying the bills.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Chris J. Davis <c...@chrisjdavis.org> wrote:
> Yes please. And who is “we” in this context?
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Chris Meller <ch...@doesnthaveone.com> wrote:
> 
>> We are secretly ahead of you. There is a Digital Ocean box set up that had 
>> an Nginx + PHP + MySQL install script run on it. I've not had time to do 
>> more than poke it, unfortunately. If you shoot me an SSH public key, I can 
>> get you added.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Drew Heath <andrew.m.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Forgive my ignorance, what sort of server capability does Habari need? That 
>> way I can help in the provider search.
>> 
>> - Drew
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Chris J. Davis <c...@chrisjdavis.org> wrote:
>> We need to start a  discussion about moving these servers to a new host (I 
>> would really like to move them to Digital Ocean 
>> (https://www.digitalocean.com) and we need to come up with some mechanism 
>> for paying for our infrastructure that doesn’t involve “Owen pays for it.”
>> 
>> I am happy to contribute cash to our hosting needs, and would love to help 
>> with maintaining servers. I already host a bit at Digital Ocean and really 
>> love the service and you can’t beat the speed and cost.
>> 
>> So, I would like to propose we get this decision made, and a plan of action 
>> put in place by the end of August.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
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