The Habari silo tries to create the 'files' directory and the '.deriv'
directory with 766 permission. Often, for reasons I don't know, it is
not able to do so.

I'm glad you found the problem. Thanks for sticking with it.

Rick

On Aug 28, 4:22 am, "Lars Oeschey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> doh... I found it (not giving up helps ;))
>
> The folder "files" itself had permission of 700. Set it to 755 and
> everythings fine. Does this happen at installation? All other folders the
> same level had 755...
>
> 2008/8/27 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Another test: I tried to insert a picture into an article, and previewed
> > it. The picture wouldn't show, and I have the same error message about
> > htaccess in the error_log. To me it seems, as if the Silo would try to
> > access images with non-relative paths?
>
> > 2008/8/27 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > hm, I tried putting a empty .htaccess file in
> >> /var/www/web13/web/user/files/.htaccess, still no go... what I find a bit
> >> suspicious, is the path that is used here... it's the direct file system
> >> path, while everything else is opened by relative paths, i.e. GET
> >> /system/themes/charcoal/images/main_bg.png
>
> >> how can that absolute path get there? (and this *could* be the problem,
> >> since the php process running with suexec can't access the / dir)
>
> >> 2008/8/26 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> Strange... I tried that, and set the directory containing the image and
> >>> the .deriv directory to 755, and still can't see them. I found this in the
> >>> error_log:
>
> >>> [Tue Aug 26 14:09:04 2008] [crit] [client 143.164.102.14] (13)Permission
> >>> denied: /var/www/web13/web/user/files/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to
> >>> check htaccess file, ensure it is readable, referer:
> >>>http://blog.oeschey.de/admin/publish?slug=automower-sp-sse-teil-1
>
> >>> why does it expect a .htaccess file *there*?
>
> >>> Lars
> >>> (btw, please excuse my bad quoting, I subscribed with my gmail account
> >>> and have to use webmail)
>
> >>> 2008/8/26 rick c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >>>> The image and thumbnail files should be okay with 644. However, I've
> >>>> found I've had to change the directory permissions to 755 to be able
> >>>> to display the thumbnails.
>
> >>>> Rick
>
> >>>> On Aug 26, 4:21 am, "Lars Oeschey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> > So, I checked now via ftp. There is a .deriv directory, and it
> >>>> contains
> >>>> > thumbnails, though I can't see them in the backend. Initially all
> >>>> files were
> >>>> > created with 600 rights, which normally should be ok, since I run a
> >>>> > suexec/phpcgi system (i.e. apache runs as the same user as the ftp
> >>>> user,
> >>>> > which is the owner of the files). To check that, I changed all rights
> >>>> > (image, .deriv directory and thumbnail file) up until I had 644. Still
> >>>> no
> >>>> > go, no thumbs visible. I can't check ownership right now (no ssh from
> >>>> here),
> >>>> > but I'd bet that it's ok (I run all my joomla and other sites with
> >>>> that
> >>>> > suexec system). Any other ideas?
>
> >>>> > Lars
>
> >>>> > 2008/8/26 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >>>> > > ok, then I can guess now why there aren't any thumbnails, because I
> >>>> found
> >>>> > > the directory creation function *after* uploading (hence the files
> >>>> are in
> >>>> > > root dir)... I'll check that with ftp later
>
> >>>> > > thanks, Lars
>
> >>>> > > 2008/8/26 rick c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >>>> > >> No, there isn't anything more advanced right now, Lars.
>
> >>>> > >> You should be getting thumbnail views of your images, When you
> >>>> upload
> >>>> > >> an image, if it doesn't already exist, the Habari silo attempts to
> >>>> > >> create a .deriv directory as a subdirectory of the directory where
> >>>> you
> >>>> > >> uploaded the image and create a thumbnail there that is shown in
> >>>> the
> >>>> > >> silo. In some cases, the .deriv directory either can't be created
> >>>> or
> >>>> > >> is created with insufficient permissions for Habari to use it. If
> >>>> > >> the .deriv directory isn't created, create it by hand. Set the
> >>>> > >> permissions on it to 755 or 775, whichever works to allow the
> >>>> > >> thumbnails to be created and displayed. You should then be able to
> >>>> get
> >>>> > >> thumbnail images that can be used to insert the image into your
> >>>> post
> >>>> > >> at the current cursor position by doubleclicking the thumbnail.
>
> >>>> > >> Regarding the delete functionality, the silo has the hooks for it,
> >>>> but
> >>>> > >> the functionality hasn't yet been enabled. I hope this helps.
>
> >>>> > >> Rick
>
> >>>> > >> On Aug 25, 7:45 pm, Lars_Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> > >> > Hi,
>
> >>>> > >> > I found out how to upload images to habari. There's also a
> >>>> possibility
> >>>> > >> > to create directories. What I'm missing though, is a thumbnails
> >>>> view
> >>>> > >> > of the images (am I missing something here?) and a possibility to
> >>>> > >> > delete. Is there maybe a plugin that has a more advanced media
> >>>> > >> > management?
>
> >>>> > >> > Lars
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