I see your point and agree with you. If Philip likes to make it optional I'll do it. By the way, the CSDL case study is not designed to study sensor adoption issues, I will make sure all the current members have their build sensor enabled one way or another. Cheers, -Cedric


Aaron Kagawa wrote:

Ok. Well, I wrote this Jira Issue thinking of our users (other Hackystat Administrators, who have no reason to "sense" their installations of Hackystat).

I can make the same change to the portion of build.xml related to the build sensor. However, since I will be starting the build case study really soon, I am hesitant to make it optional.


I don't know what you are doing in your case study, but if you are using the developers' data as part of your case study, then I would claim an ANT enforcement isn't the correct way to ensure the data is correct. After all, the developer could disable the sensor. Instead of assuming that all developers are sending data, an analysis should identify developers with missing data. For example, if a developer has UnitTests and Commit data code but has no Build data then something is wrong. Or, if a developer has Commit data but no UnitTest and/or Build then something is wrong.

Just my 2 cents...

thanks, aaron

At 09:09 PM 9/22/2005, Qin ZHANG (Cedric) wrote:

Thanks, Aaron, I did not notice there is a <available class=..> task in ant. That will solve your problem. In fact, this is not related to how the sensor is implemented. It's a matter of how the build script is written.

I can make the same change to the portion of build.xml related to the build sensor. However, since I will be starting the build case study really soon, I am hesitant to make it optional.

Perhaps we can just add the tip to the documentation.

Cheers,

Cedric


Aaron Kagawa wrote:

How about something like this?

<!-- *********************************************************************** --> <!-- LOCC requires locc.jar and sensor.locc.jar in ant/lib. --> <!-- *********************************************************************** -->
  <target name="checkLoccAvailable"
    description="Sets locc.available if the locc resource is found.">
<available property="locc.available" classname="csdl.locc.tools.ant.LOCCTaskdef"/>
    <!--
<available property="locc.sensor.available" classname="org.hackystat.stdext.sensor.ant.locc.LoccSensor"/>
    -->
  </target>

  <target name="locc" depends="checkLoccAvailable" if="locc.available"

thanks, aaron

At 06:02 PM 9/22/2005, you wrote:

Hi, Aaron and everybody else,

I remember someone has brought up this question before.

We cannot check whether build sensor is installed in installBuildSensor task or some other custom ant task, because it still requires that you have the implementation code availabe in the java class path or ant library.

Does Ant come with a task that allows us check whether a particualar class or jar file is available or not? If yes, then it's simple to satisfy your feature request. But the problem is I don't think ant has such a task.

Or does anybody else have any idea?

Cheers,

Cedric

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [JIRA] Created: (HACK-351) check if build sensor is installed
Date:   Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:55:33 -1000 (HST)
From:   Aaron A. Kagawa (JIRA) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]



check if build sensor is installed
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        Key: HACK-351
        URL: http://hackydev.ics.hawaii.edu:8080/browse/HACK-351
    Project: Hackystat
       Type: Improvement
   Reporter: Aaron A. Kagawa
Assigned to: Qin Zhang    Priority: Minor


is there any reason why we can't check if the build sensor is installed before calling the installBuildSensor target? I think it would be a good thing for users to be able to build the system without having to install all the sensors. this will be important when we remove the sensor.*.jar files from out hackyBuild/lib/ant directory and use hackyInstaller instead.

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