Hey Doug,
> 
> Is adding the following line to your conf/hadoop-env.sh not good enough?
> 
> export HADOOP_SSH_OPTS=""
> 
> Or are you arguing that we should make that the default?  I'd be okay
> with that.

Yup, that's what I'm arguing. +1

> 
> >>Instead of 'bin/start-all.sh' that's just 'bin/hadoop-daemon.sh start
> >>namenode; bin/hadoop-daemons.sh start datanode'.  Is that what you're
> >>after?  I guess we could add a bin/start-dfs.sh command that does this.
> >
> > Yeah, that's exactly what I'm after. [ ... ] Anyways, getting back to
> the
> > point, yeah, it would be great to have something to just start and stop
> DFS,
> > and start and stop MapReduce for that matter, even if it just amounts to
> the
> > simple command you mentioned above. I've attached a quick patch for
> Hadoop
> > that implements it.
> 
> Can you please attach this to a bug so that we don't lose track of it?
> 
> Also, we should probably change the -all scripts to be based on the -dfs
> and -mapred scripts, no?

Yup, agreed. I'll attach the patch in five minutes to JIRA. Thanks for the
quick turnaround on this.

Take care,
  Chris

> 
> Doug

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