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Benjamin Reed commented on HADOOP-941:
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Using the Hadoop jar would be an extreme cognitive burden. Plunking a 
map/reduce/distribute filesystem jar into an otherwise simple application to 
use a small library from that jar (that is currently not used by the rest of 
Hadoop) seems to defy logic.

We maintain a copy of the record io to:

1) Address some of the issues that Milind's patch address.
2) We added C support.
3) We wanted to address the "cognitive burden" raised above by providing a 
simple standalone library.
4) It is not clear that Hadoop considers the record io a stable interface to be 
used outside of Hadoop. Since our application is only interested in the record 
io, we need that to be stable.

(It has nothing to do with the frequencies of Hadoop releases...)

I realize this is a tangential issue since we aren't even using Hadoop in our 
application. We just noticed that the record io is a small portion of hadoop 
that is very useful outside of Hadoop as well. It would be nice to make that 
available for other applications.

Personally, I'm fine with it either way. While it would be convenient to have a 
standard record io library, I don't want to push you in a direction you are not 
interested in.

> Make Hadoop Record I/O Easier to use outside Hadoop
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-941
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-941
>             Project: Hadoop
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: record
>    Affects Versions: 0.10.1
>         Environment: All
>            Reporter: Milind Bhandarkar
>         Assigned To: Milind Bhandarkar
>             Fix For: 0.11.0
>
>
> Hadoop record I/O can be used effectively outside of Hadoop. It would 
> increase its utility if developers can use it without having to import hadoop 
> classes, or having to depend on Hadoop jars. Following changes to the current 
> translator and runtime are proposed.
> Proposed Changes:
> 1. Use java.lang.String as a native type for ustring (instead of Text.)
> 2. Provide a Buffer class as a native Java type for buffer (instead of 
> BytesWritable), so that later BytesWritable could be implemented as following 
> DDL:
> module org.apache.hadoop.io {
>   record BytesWritable {
>     buffer value;
>   }
> }
> 3. Member names in generated classes should not have prefixes 'm' before 
> their names. In the above example, the private member name would be 'value' 
> not 'mvalue' as it is done now.
> 4. Convert getters and setters to have CamelCase. e.g. in the above example 
> the getter will be:
>   public Buffer getValue();
> 5. Provide a 'swiggable' C binding, so that processing the generated C code 
> with swig allows it to be used in scripting languages such as Python and Perl.
> 6. The default --language="java" target would generate class code for records 
> that would not have Hadoop dependency on WritableComparable interface, but 
> instead would have "implements Record, Comparable". (i.e. It will not have 
> write() and readFields() methods.) An additional option "--writable" will 
> need to be specified on rcc commandline to generate classes that "implements 
> Record, WritableComparable".
> 7. Optimize generated write() and readFields() methods, so that they do not 
> have to create BinaryOutputArchive or BinaryInputArchive every time these 
> methods are called on a record.
> 8. Implement ByteInStream and ByteOutStream for C++ runtime, as they will be 
> needed for using Hadoop Record I/O with forthcoming C++ MapReduce framework 
> (currently, only FileStreams are provided.)
> 9. Generate clone() methods for records in Java i.e. the generated classes 
> should implement Cloneable.
> 10. As part of Hadoop build process, produce a tar bundle for Record I/O 
> alone. This tar bundle will contain the translator classes and ant task 
> (lib/rcc.jar), translator script (bin/rcc), Java runtime (recordio.jar) that 
> includes org.apache.hadoop.record.*, sources for the java runtime (src/java), 
> and c/c++ runtime sources with Makefiles (src/c++, src/c).
> 11. Make generated Java codes for maps and vectors use Java generics.
> These are the proposed user-visible changes. Internally, the translator will 
> be restructured so that it is easier to plug-in translators for different 
> targets.

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