On Fri, Sep 19, 2003, Alon Altman wrote about "Re: [Haifux] RedHat 9.0 is the official 
distribution of the instaparty":
>   The major problem with RedHat is installing packages. There is no "uprmi"
> for RedHat. There is only up2date that requires payed subscription to RHN to
> use.

Upgrading Redhat is not hard, and only saps need to pay for RHN ;)

What I do, for example, is to "rsync" the latest upgrades from a certain
server (I assume IGLU or something also can be used for this purpose - if
not this situation can be fixed, I can tell you how) and then check the GPG
signature on these updates and "rpm -F" them. I have a simple "nup2date"
script to do this for me automatically: it looks something like this

rsync --delete --max-delete=5 --delete-after --exclude ".in.*" \
 --exclude "*.src.rpm" -avP servername:/directory/redhat-updates-9.0/ \
 /usr/local/redhat-updates-9.0/
cd /usr/local/redhat-updates-9.0/
print "Checking signatures (this may take a few minutes):"
# remember to install Redhat's public key before doing this:
rpm --checksig $REGULARS |& grep -v "md5 gpg OK" && exit 1

BTW, I actually find it harder, not easier, to upgrade a Debian system
on a day-to-day basis. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I have more
experience with Redhat. But it certainly can't be said that it's trivial
to upgrade Debian and impossible to upgrade Redhat.

>   Meir and Shachar - Please consider up2us[1] for the updates CD to help
> with installing packages. As users will not be able to easily install
> software themselves (due to Adir's descision) it's important to put ANY
> useful software on the updates CD and ANY thinkable library. Also, put
> -devel versions of everything to allow installation from source.

In any case, it is important that all the errata that currently exist
for Redhat 9 be installed on the new machines and you don't ask the users
to do that on their own. Remember that many of the users will have modems,
and downloading 500 MB (!!) of errata will take a bit of time (to say the
least) for them.

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