On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, guy keren wrote:
>
> > I think also a very important thing to teach is to check after yourself when
> > you change permissions, at least in the first few times, to see you did
> > what you intended. And only that.
>
> this is something i will mention during the lecture. how would you put it
> in the slides, and where?

I would show an example of a chmod, and then ls -l of this file, and read
with them (slowly) the interpretation of all those x's and r's and -'s and
w's. also for a directory, to see the d. Better, I would ask any of the
listeners to interpret that for us.

> > 23,24(twice): in "rather then": s/then/than/
>
> actually, 3 times on all slides together. fixed.

I meant twice in 24 :)

> > 29: I personally find the summary line :"Google for them all on your spare
> > time.."
> > improper.
>
> improper in what manner? i am trying to say "you'll need to learn about
> these issues on your own, because we are not showing them here". they are
> bound to stumble on these issues sooner or later - so i just make them
> known by name.

the google direction scares people. you can say it oraly, but it loks bad
written. they come to us in order not to be on their own. they want to
know what they have leaned, not that there is a google out there. and a
summary slide is important- it gives the sense of achievement.
it differes from table of ocntents, in that people are supposed to know
what you are talking about by then.

"Tell them what you are going to tell them, then tell them, then tell them
what you told them".

regarding the octal chmod: I do not think it is good to use it, but I
think they should learn it exists, and the difference between octal chmod
and umask. could get very confusing.

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