My layout *is* Haml!!! That must be it - sorry I had not thought of
that. I may try to upgrade to the master branch but until then this
just gives me ample incentive to migrate everything.

On Apr 28, 11:31 pm, Nathan Weizenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This happens to templates that don't pass through Haml at all? That's
> not good... I don't know why it would be happening, though. Is your
> layout written in Haml? Does the problem persist when you upgrade to the
> most recent master branch?
>
> voodoorails wrote:
> > I should not have posted a partial from haml. An rhtml file, that is
> > not a partial pulled in from a haml file,  still shows the same spaces
> > - like it does in the second textarea in the image above.
>
> > In other words, my other pre-haml rthml files, unless I override them
> > like I did in the first post, still contain errant spaces.
>
> > The fix is to get off my bum and use all haml - and I can live with
> > that :)
>
> > On Apr 28, 5:12 pm, "Nathan Weizenbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Oh, I see. You still need to use ~ when you're rendering partials, so that
> >> it'll continue to preserve the formatting of the textarea.
>
> >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, voodoorails <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Thank you for your reply!
>
> >>> /www/scents> haml -v
> >>> Haml 1.8.2
>
> >>> That is the latest, I hope :)
>
> >>> The output of the text_area helper, using rhtml has extra spaces, like
> >>> an indent in front of every new line.(looking at them in Textmate -
> >>> they appear to be spaces. To clearly illustrate I've uploaded a
> >>> picture. One using haml(and the ~) and the other using rhtml.
>
> >>> %label Text
> >>> ~ form.text_area :text
>
> >>> %label With RHTML
> >>> = render :partial => 'rhtml', :locals => {:form => form}
>
> >>> I've uploaded a file to illustrate.
>
> >>>http://haml.googlegroups.com/web/SafariScreenSnapz001.png?gsc=Z2yGngs...
>
> >>> #_rhtml.rhtml
> >>> <%= form.text_area :text %>
>
> >>> Looking at the field in the db, raw, those characters are not in
> >>> there, as they are shown in the second textarea above.
>
> >>> So, active record, I think is pulling them from the db and adding the
> >>> spaces. I think!
>
> >>> I really dig haml!
>
> >>> Thanks again, :Voodoo
>
> >>> On Apr 28, 1:34 pm, "Nathan Weizenbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>> What version of Haml are you using? What's the output from the text_area
> >>>> helper and what do you expect it to be?
>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:26 AM, voodoorails <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> After installing haml my rhtml files (in a fairly large app which I
> >>>>> intended to keep much of the rhtml until a later time -running both in
> >>>>> parallel and migrating as nec.) the text area problem with spaces
> >>>>> cropped up in my rhtml. For awhile it did not occur to me it might be
> >>>>> haml altering the output of rhtml files. This issue kicked me pretty
> >>>>> hard for a day or so and my solution was to not use text_area in my
> >>>>> app and just use raw html instead and a regex, for example.
>
> >>>>> <textarea cols="40" id="product_title" name="product[title]"
> >>>>> rows="20"><%= @product.title.gsub(/\r\n/, "\r") %></textarea>
>
> >>>>> Which allowed me to move forward, which was some relief but that is
> >>>>> pretty ugly for sure.
>
> >>>>> So, if you intend to use both you might need to do that? Or is there a
> >>>>> better way?
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