I think nested imports would shadow variables and mixins at the level where
they were imported, rather than overwriting.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Chris Eppstein <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kind of. Within any sass file, you would only be able to define top level
> mixin. But those imported mixins will be scoped to the imported context.
>
> The scoping rules will be the same as for variables. I'm still thinking
> about whether mixins defined via an imported context would overwrite (like
> variables) or hide any previous definition of that mixin. I'm leaning
> towards hiding...
>
> chris
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Jacques Crocker <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Awesome. Will part of this change allow us to define nested mixins as
>> well?
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Chris Eppstein wrote:
>>
>> Nathan and I did chat and agreed to re-introduce the nested import
>> functionality. Such files will need to be 100% valid on their own, even if
>> they are only ever imported. This change has to be done right, with proper
>> variable and mixin scopes, etc. Also, new test cases need to be written.
>>
>> The reason I became sold about this feature was actually for a whole
>> different reason than was mentioned: It becomes an effective way for users
>> to manage the otherwise global namespace of mixins.
>>
>> If the changeset for this is relatively straightforward, then I think this
>> will be a candidate for a 2.2 patch release, otherwise it'll need to wait
>> for 2.4.
>>
>> chris
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Chris Eppstein <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I understand your use case. It looks like Nathan and I need to
>>> chat a little.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Tim Underwood 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Each site has a styles.sass that contains any customizations and then
>>>> includes the shared styles (usually just a whitelabel.sass that is
>>>> similar to the example below).  I have about 2 dozen Sass variables
>>>> that can be overridden to control various colors (link colors,
>>>> backgrounds, borders, etc...) and about a dozen Sass mixins that can
>>>> be re-defined to control link behavior (color, text-decoration, hover,
>>>> etc...).  The variables and mixins are the bulk of the customizations
>>>> but a few of the sites have additional styles that aren't configurable
>>>> via variables or mixins.
>>>>
>>>> -Tim
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2:05 pm, Chris Eppstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Tim,
>>>> >
>>>> > That's quite a setup. Is there any per-site styling or are you
>>>> basically
>>>> > just generating two sets of CSS, one for white-labels and one for your
>>>> own
>>>> > site?
>>>> >
>>>> > chris
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Tim Underwood <
>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Fair enough.  First off let me say that I love Sass.  Without it my
>>>> > > whole setup wouldn't work and would just be a big mess.  So a big
>>>> > > THANKS to the developers!
>>>> >
>>>> > > My use case is probably somewhat unique.  I run FrugalMechanic.com
>>>> > > where we power ~100 whitelabel versions of our website for partners
>>>> > > (e.g. autoparts.allaboutprius.com, autoparts.mustangblog.com,
>>>> > > autoparts.carzi.com).  The easiest way to build the whitelabels is
>>>> to
>>>> > > embed our content into their stock html/css.  For this to work I
>>>> make
>>>> > > extensive use of the nested @import's to avoid css selector
>>>> conflicts
>>>> > > with their stock css by making sure all of my css selectors are more
>>>> > > specific than theirs.
>>>> >
>>>> > > I currently have 126 sass files with 265 @import statements (some
>>>> > > nested, some not).  The sass files that are used for the @imports
>>>> > > (both nested and non-nested) are all used as partials and kept in a
>>>> > > separate directory to avoid confusion with the sass files that are
>>>> > > actually used to generate the final css used by the browser.
>>>> >
>>>> > > I *personally* think the nested @import approach is cleaner because
>>>> > > it's more concise and less error prone (for me at least).
>>>> >
>>>> > > As a very simplified example, for frugalmechanic I have something
>>>> like
>>>> > > this at the top level:
>>>> >
>>>> > > @import yui-resets.sass
>>>> > > @import base.sass
>>>> > > @import styles.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > For the whitelabels (where I nest all the rules) it looks something
>>>> > > more like:
>>>> >
>>>> > > #frugalmechanic
>>>> > >  @import yui-resets.sass
>>>> > >  @import base.sass
>>>> > >  @styles.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > Going the mixin route would mean changing the first one
>>>> > > (frugalmechanic) to:
>>>> >
>>>> > > @import yui-resets.sass
>>>> > > @import base.sass
>>>> > > @import styles.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > +base
>>>> > > +yui_resets
>>>> > > +styles
>>>> >
>>>> > > And a whitelabel would look like:
>>>> >
>>>> > > @import yui-resets.sass
>>>> > > @import base.sass
>>>> > > @import styles.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > #frugalmechanic
>>>> > >  +yui_resets
>>>> > >  +base
>>>> > >  +styles
>>>> >
>>>> > > So for frugalmechanic I've gone from 3 lines of code to 6 and the
>>>> > > whitelabels have gone from 4 to 7 for this simplified example.
>>>> > > Multiply that by my 265 @import statements and that adds quite a bit
>>>> > > of code that IMHO doesn't add any value.
>>>> >
>>>> > > However, I think the change I'm more concerned about is needing to
>>>> add
>>>> > > the mixin definition to the top of all my @import'ed sass files and
>>>> > > indenting the entires contents of the file by 2 spaces.  The 2 space
>>>> > > indenting makes those files less readable and more error prone since
>>>> > > if I mess up the indent I'll have styles escaping my nested rules
>>>> > > (which can be hard to debug).
>>>> >
>>>> > > -Tim
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Dec 14, 11:13 am, Chris Eppstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > > > It was intentionally taken away because, as I understand it, it
>>>> was never
>>>> > > > intended to work.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > I respect that you think this is a cleaner implementation, but I
>>>> > > disagree. I
>>>> > > > think it's very confusing. Mixins are how you indicate that a
>>>> particular
>>>> > > > block of styles are going to be nested into other selectors. Why
>>>> do we
>>>> > > need
>>>> > > > two mechanisms for mixing? If I open up
>>>> index_page_nested_rules.sass
>>>> > > there's
>>>> > > > nothing about that file that tells me how it's going to be used
>>>> except,
>>>> > > > maybe, a comment if you thought to add one. If I see one or more
>>>> mixins
>>>> > > > defined there, I understand, I have to go looking for where they
>>>> are
>>>> > > used.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Perhaps there is some use case I haven't considered, so I'll
>>>> welcome you
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > state your case for why you think this approach is better than
>>>> @import +
>>>> > > > mixins.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Chris
>>>> >
>>>> > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Tim Underwood <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > > >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > In Haml/Sass 2.0.9 I'm able to do something like this:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > .index_page
>>>> > > > >  @import index_page_nested_rules.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > .results_page
>>>> > > > >  @import results_page_nested_rules.sass
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > And then everything in index_page_nested_rules.sass was nested
>>>> within
>>>> > > > > my index_page class. But in Haml/Sass 2.2.15 I get this error:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > "Sass::SyntaxError: Import directives may only be used at the
>>>> root of
>>>> > > > > a document."
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Was support for this intentionally taken away?  Is there another
>>>> way
>>>> > > > > to accomplish the same thing?  Mixins kind of work but aren't as
>>>> clean
>>>> > > > > as the nested @import's.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > -Tim
>>>> >
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