DogBot,

I'm agnostic too and have used all versions of Windows, some versions
of Mac OS X and pre OS X, and a couple of flavours of Linux. All have
their pros and cons:

Windows: Great choice of inexpensive but variable quality hardware and
variable quality software, but not a *nix ecosystem. It's also kind of
uncool to be on Windows these days; it lacks geek-cred.

Linux: Harder to use than both Win and OS X (but getting better all
the time), lots of free software of variable quality, a great
community, and it's Linux. You don't get things like Adobe CS, though,
which is one of the primary reasons I haven't switched to Ubuntu full
time.

Mac: Good choice of high quality software; OS X is just awesome; built
on *nix; but kind of expensive with a lack of hardware options. What
hardware options there are tend to be of reasonably high quality with
beautiful industrial design. Has a high geek-cred factor.

To be honest, switching from Windows would be a bit of a drastic move
just to use Sass and Git, especially if you've already invested in
software for the platform. I use Ruby, Haml, Sass, Git and all sorts
of other things perfectly happily on Windows. I also use an Ubuntu VM
running on VirtualBox when I need it and it's brilliant - I love
Ubuntu. VirtualBox is lovely too.

Some resources for you to help you on you way:

http://progit.org/book/ch1-4.html
http://github.com/guides/using-git-and-github-for-the-windows-for-newbies
http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/
http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/console/
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
http://www.virtualbox.org/

In the long run, it's probably best to just buy a Mac if you're after
the best all-round experience (you can still run Linux and Windows in
VirtualBox VMs), but don't think you can't have just as much fun on
Windows if that's where you're stuck.

If you're really into the whole platform agnostic thing and you come
to deploy Rails or Sinatra (or other Rack-based) apps online, then
Heroku is really awesome. They've pretty much abstracted the OS away.
It all just works and you don't have to think about servers and such.
Plus, basic accounts are free, so you can test your app out live
without any initial cost outlay.

Charles


2010/1/21 Amy <[email protected]>:
> DogBot,
>
> I consider myself to be technology agnostic: if your current setup fits your
> normal workflow then stick with it. For the cost of a Mac your could instead
> get a Linux slice on a web host. Then you have a dev environment AND an
> identical production env. That will make some deployments faster.
>
> -- Amy
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 16:23, DogBot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'll tell you what, Richard....I have taken a glance at Ubuntu and
>> RedHat over the years and considered it. But after all I have read and
>> learned during these last few days it is beginning to dawn on me that
>> the place to be for cutting edge web development is my first and true
>> love..The Mac. (my last mac was a Performa..that is a looooong time
>> ago) which incidentally now combines mac, unix and intel(and thus
>> windows)
>>
>> I have so much invested on the win platform though that it will be
>> difficult, starting with a CS4 master suite and a Bridge based
>> workflow (can one "side-grade" software to another platform??hmmmm)
>> and a million more things....
>>
>> But I am considering it.
>>
>> I might install Linux on a VM, and  try development there...what
>> flavor do you recommend?
>>
>> Chepi, I am working on it will have a draft on here soon
>>
>> Dog
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 4:16 pm, Chris Eppstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Better advice: Buy a mac. It's got unix underneath and a nice UI.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Richard Aday
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> DogBot, instead of learning how to use the tools on Windows, you could
>>>> spend your time installing Linux and learning the Command Line.  Then
>>>> you
>>>> can follow all the *nix documentation.
>>>
>>>> Just a thought :)
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM, DogBot <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hampton..never mind..i did it I compiled it.got it running cool tool
>>>>> thanks.
>>>
>>>>> Dogbot
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 20, 3:20 pm, DogBot <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Noel,
>>>>>> WTF indeed. But I get git now. Truly thanks. After another hour of
>>>>>> screencasts (I dont'watch TV anymore, just the Command Line channel) I
>>>>>> realized that what I needed to start with was the "git for
>>>>>> windows"(hint: is mentioned in the learn git page but alas no
>>>>>> link..that would be too easy) In the process I also learned about SVN
>>>>>> and tortoise (something else that had me vexed for other semi-related
>>>>>> reasons)and marveled at the irony of the large amount of codes,
>>>>>> languages and secret handshakes I now have learned to avoid coding
>>>>>> (that was the point of getting Compass in the first place..lazyness).
>>>>>> Oh well, at least I don't feel so much like a dad crashing his son's
>>>>>> frat party anymore.
>>>
>>>>>> Charles that was INCREDIBLY helpful. Instant gratification. Closest
>>>>>> thing to nerd porn in a long time. Love dobdark, I want to make a
>>>>>> website based on that scheme. In fact I am going to make an
>>>>>> insignificant change to the scheme an call it dogbark
>>>
>>>>>> Hampton..dude...I got the your stuff from git. Its a bunch of files. I
>>>>>> click on all of them..nothing happens (one launches e-text in XML
>>>>>> mode) Sounds like you worked hard on it and it is very cool so I'd
>>>>>> like to make the effort. Do I need apcelerator? and if so. could you
>>>>>> give me a step-by-step? remember to speak to me as if I was that
>>>>>> Japanese guy who was hiding in the jungle since WW2.
>>>
>>>>>> DogBot
>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2:51 am, Charles Roper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/1/20 DogBot <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>>>>> Same
>>>>>>>> thing with some text editors I'm trying....  the haml/sass/compass
>>>>>>>> higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I
>>>>>>>> cannot figure how to download anything from there.
>>>
>>>>>>> DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then
>>>>>>> Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then
>>>>>>> click Install.
>>>
>>>>>>> You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
>>>
>>>>>>> Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a
>>>>>>> different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend
>>>>>>> DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to
>>>>>>> HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with
>>>>>>> most others such as PHP.
>>>
>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>> P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the
>>>>>>> bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you
>>>>>>> like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
>>>
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