Eclipse used to do multiple IP addresses, I don't know if your ISP does. If
so, you could do this with 3 devices: ADSL router and 2x ethernet routers,
then you set up 2x standard NAT one on each IP address. That'll safely
separate the networks.

Benjie.

On 9 May 2011 16:43, Vic <l...@beer.org.uk> wrote:

>
> > If you connect the 'internet'
> > side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly
> to
> > the
> > ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as
> > normal,
> > so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is
> > firewalled
> > off from the rest of the network by the cable router.
>
> Errr - I'm not so sure about that.
>
> What is behind the cable router has the usual NAT blackhole, but what is
> hanging off the ADSL router is entirely unprotected from what is behind
> the cable router.
>
> So if the untrusted box is the one behind the cable router, all the
> trusted boxes are still subject to attack from the "problem" box. And that
> box has essentially unfettered Internet access, so it has no protection
> from PEBKAC either.
>
> You could, of course, have it the other way round - but that means
> reconfiguring everything currently on the network, means that those boxes
> will have to deal with double-NAT (which may or may not be a problem), and
> still offers no firewall filtering for the hostile box.
>
> So I don't think I agree with you...
>
> Vic.
>
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