Hi Karl,

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:25:42AM +1000, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:
> Hi All & Willy, 
> 
> I am seeing an increasing amount of spam / viral infection data coming
> across the mailing list.

I know, there are some periods.

> Surely, like surely you don't need an entirely open mailinglist, it's so
> easy to implement a verification of identity confirmation these days?

As we already discussed it, I *refuse* to have any form of identity-based
filtering on the list. It's very annoying for people who get CCed from a
mailing list to discover they can't respond or that their response is
being checked. I find this very impolite and counter-productive. There are
about 500 permanent subscribers to the list, very few of which are having
problem with the spam level. A number of other ones just subscribe for a
few days to follow a thread then unsubscribe. I'm very fine with this method
if they really can't stand the amount of spam and I invite subscribers who
are uncomfortable with the spam to unsubscribe.

As Allan said it, the bounce messages are much more annoying than the spam,
especially the holiday messages, and I have no magic recipe for filtering
those out. There are people who sometimes don't get some messages or who
receive messages indicating that some mails were bouncing on their side,
which we haven't yet troubleshooted. I'm much more concerned with this
because people who expect messages to be delivered don't get them.

Right now I would say that the amount of spam I get via the list is so low
compared to what I have in my other boxes that chances to reach me are much
higher via the list than via my other addresses. 

> I am even happy to help in setting this up if you are too busy.

Well, that's kind, but you will certainly understand that I would never want
to put the list into the hands of someone who's concerned with 2 spams a day.
I'm sure you'll be able to get rid of those, but at the expense of the list's
accessibility or reliability. My concern is that the list works fine for its
users and that we don't block their mails. They can freely ignore the tiny
amount of residual spam or unsubscribe.

Thanks,
Willy


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