I agree with John, and want to add that Nagle applies to everything. You may 
want to go through your full application stack to see where the Nagle algorithm 
might be applied and if you can turn it off.

Wout.

On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:12 , John Marrett wrote:

> What I said still applies. The only difference is that there is 
> (substantially) less overhead on a new http connection compared to https.
> 
> Keepalive is quite likely to be the reason for the substantial performance 
> deviation between your two tests.
> 
> -JohnF
> 
> On 2011 11 12 22:46, "David Prothero" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for that tip. I will keep an eye out for that when we begin our SSL 
> performance testing. Currently, however, the delay is with regular http 
> connections directly to haproxy.
> 
> David
> 
> Wout Mertens &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:
> 
> On Nov 11, 2011, at 17:43 , David Prothero wrote:
> 
>> The local test showed a very small (and more than acceptable) overhead of 
>> 7ms for the entire page load (all 29 requests) when going through HAProxy. 
>> However, tests from longer distances over various IP’s showed an overhead 
>> that seemed to be proportional to the amount of latency in the connection. 
>> Typical overhead times we are seeing from various locations (both from 
>> enterprise and consumer grade connections) are around 200-400ms.
>> 
> 
> Delay values of multiples of 200ms are due to the Nagle algorithm. Try adding
> 
> socket=l:TCP_NODELAY=1
> socket=r:TCP_NODELAY=1
> 
> to your stunnel configuration.
> 
> Wout.

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