OCSP is obviously enabled, but not ocsp stapling.

On 11/07/2012 05:18 PM, joris dedieu wrote:
> 2012/11/7 Hervé COMMOWICK <[email protected]>:
>> As of now, on client side, it is only working on IE9 (not before not
>> after) and Opera, not so common...
> 
> It's enable in Firefox for a long time (Edit / Preference / Advanced /
> Encryption / Validation or search ocsp in about:config).
> See : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110161
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Look this : http://www.imperialviolet.org/2012/02/05/crlsets.html for
>> Google's thoughts
>> Short : "On this basis, we're currently planning on disabling online
>> revocation checks in a future version of Chrome. (There is a class of
>> higher-security certificate, called an EV certificate, where we haven't
>> made a decision about what to do yet.)"
>>
>> And this : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360420#c10 for
>> Mozilla's thoughts.
>> Short : "it's busted by design. It can only carry a single response and
>> hardly any sites have only one OCSP certificate in their chain these
>> days. So it doesn't eliminate the OCSP lookup delay, which it's primary
>> attraction.
>>
>> Hervé C.
>>
>>
>> On 11/06/2012 11:02 PM, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:57:59PM +0100, Lukas Tribus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if it helps without some knowledge of the nginx source code, but
>>>> here [1] you can find the patches applied to nginx to introduce ocsp 
>>>> support.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer. Anyway as you suspect, source code alone doesn't
>>> tell much about the real benefits to expect from this feature, nor how
>>> it's supposed to be used (especially by clients).
>>>
>>>> Its doesn't seem to be trivial to implement though, because you also need 
>>>> to
>>>> run (at regular intervals) an OCSP query towards the CA's OCSP server...
>>>
>>> Amusingly, running a task at regular intervals is the easiest part to do,
>>> it's just like health checks. We could decide to dedicate such a task per
>>> stapling-enabled bind line and it would not be much of an issue. The 
>>> overhead
>>> would not even be measurable if we were working at insane refresh rates.
>>>
>>> What's unclear to me is how many clients do support this nowadays, how many
>>> servers do, whether or not users are willing to allow outgoing connections
>>> to fetch such cert statuses, whether or not non-stapling aware clients would
>>> be impacted by the feature (eg: increased handshake size due to advertised
>>> extension and data to everyone) etc...
>>>
>>> I think we need to take more time to study this in details, but until
>>> someone comes with a detailed description of what this will bring to
>>> his site, I'm not sure anyone will spend more time on this :-/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Willy
>>>
>>>
>>
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