Hi Jerome,

Do you have any good reason to setup an active/active "cluster"?

crossed VIPs hosted by VRRP is recommended for "simple" active/active
setup then as you mentioned, playing with DNS RR.
conntrack is a bad idea with haproxy ;)

If you expect a massive traffic, it's better to use a first layer of
Layer 4 LoadBalancers using LVS or some routing protocols (or Cisco
ECMP).

Baptiste



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Jérôme Benoit
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm starting to think about a way to setup an active/active HAProxy.
>
> HAProxy can share as of 1.5 its connection table, which is really a
> appreciated feature :)
>
> I've thought of different way to implement such a setup :
>
> * RR DNS on two VRRP interface (BP is really shared between boxes),
>   conntrackd permit to also share TCP states between boxes that will
>   also run iptables. I see no trivial race condition in this setup
>   between in and out network stateful protocol.
> * cluster iptables module to load balance between the 2 HAProxy boxes on
>   on the VIP and conntrackd. This setup exhibit two main problems :
>         - network load is not really shared between the boxes, it's the
>           intented behaviour of the setup;
>         - HA is not really the primary goal of iptables cluster module
>           by default, some kind of script should be made or really big
>           hammer like pacemaker must be used to handle HAProxy or boxes 
> failure
>           (not really a big pb);
>         - race condition might be triggered (depend on the cluster
>           module configuration, with ARP and ARP cache, that might happen
>           under very high load but I expect very high load). But the
>           configuration that will trigger the race condition will unlikely to
>           happen, I can't use loadbalanding at the layer 2 level.
>   CARP with load balancing on *BSD and pfsync exibit the same issue on
>   network load : packets go on the two boxes, which is not really what I
>   want.
>
> You might ask why I want this kind of setup : it's because of the
> network load on the LB tiers and I can't change the network topology or 
> network element setup and the backend
> application network protocol are not stateless at all (but hopefully not
> opening very long TCP session).
>
> For now, the RR DNS solution with VRRP sound the best but maybe I missed
> some other tricks that can be able on the OS network layer (even thought to
> play with VIP timer annoucement at layer 2, might work but very
> hackish without an hand on the switch).
>
> Do anyone have already tried to put HAProxy in active/active mode (with
> firewalling) ?
>
> Cheers.
>
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