In my opinion gtwvt will be very useful for harbour user in windows 32
because allow a easy switch cui gui
xbase++ class & gtwvw  is also a important bridge for Xbase developer
and xharbour+gtwvw
No support for ,windows ce,windows 64,linux but maybe wine ..is
similar situation to gtxwc,gtwvw
a documentation will help user undestrand the non portable library




2009/3/26 Viktor Szakáts <[email protected]>:
> Thanks Angel. I agree with you.
> If we indeed think this direction seriously we could make
> some moves to separate portable and non-portable libs
> from each other. Something should count as portable if
> at least Windows (including x86, x64 and wince),
> Linux and Darwin are supported. If more platforms are
> supported, good, but if some of these are not, we should
> consider handling these differently. Unfortunately the
> decision cannot be that automatic, we need to make exceptions:
> hbwin is a common need for Windows users (but we should
> have *only one* Windows specific lib, no separate hbole f.e.),
> rddads is also a common need, and it's not supported outside
> win/linux.
> After evaluating our contrib list, I could only name a few
> ones which would be dropped by above rules, the most
> problematic and less portable specific lib is gtwvg. I hope
> Pritpal can save the Xbase++ layer of it, so it can be useful
> for QT, but otherwise I'd like to propose to do something
> about it, like moving it to examples, or opening a separate
> SVN project for it. The rest of libs is about okay, maybe only
> hbblat stands out as Windows only, albeit it's the only way
> to send e-mails from a Windows system and the code very
> simple (only one C function) and unobtrusive, so I think it
> should stay. hbole integration should be done ASAP.
> We also have a few places where portable libs use platform
> specific features: hbct, hbfbird, hbfimage, hbmysql, hbnf, hbodbc,
> hbssl, xhb. I'll try to evaluate all these, and also ask for help
> from other to eliminate them. (by using Harbour API calls, or
> other means).
> Brgds,
> Viktor
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Angel Pais <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Viktor:
>>
>> Here's an outsider's point of view and vision about harbour.
>> This is a multiplattform compiler so in my personall point of view the
>> only c commpiler that should be guaranteed to work flawless is gcc/mingw.
>> Other compilers should be responsibility of special distros supporters.
>> Also hbmk2 should be the only and official way to compile and build
>> everything, from core to utils to samples.
>>
>> JMHO
>> Angel
>>
>> PD: Same about gui. xbgtk and or QT should be the only ones officialy
>> supported by this project.
>>
>>
>> Viktor Szakáts escribió:
>>>
>>>    Hi agree about importance of give a choice and agree mingw/msvc path
>>>    can we follow Minigui that  include harbour & MinGW to be ready to use
>>>    for windows platform?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know MiniGUI, so I cannot tell.
>>>
>>> What is possible though is to provide such a binary distribution which is
>>> based on MinGW, contains MinGW binaries and also includes MSVC libs. Such
>>> package is a self-contained one being able to create executables without any
>>> external tools, it also has GNU Make, and it's also possible to use it with
>>> MSVC and even POCC if someone has these installed.
>>>
>>> I'll check if I can make hbmk2 detect such embedded mingw installation
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>> Such package is a 42MB .zip, and if this seems to be okay for everyone
>>> such package may replace our current compiler dependent distros, by the
>>> simple names of:
>>>
>>> harbour-1.1.0-win-x86.zip
>>> harbour-1.1.0-win-x86.exe
>>> harbour-1.1.0-win-x64.zip
>>> harbour-1.1.0-win-x64.exe
>>> harbour-1.1.0-wince-arm.zip
>>> harbour-1.1.0-wince-arm.exe
>>>
>>> I think such distros would send a much better message towards users and
>>> give them a much better service. Of course, all BCC/owatcom users will have
>>> to migrate to above proper compilers to be able to follow.
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> Brgds,
>>> Viktor
>>>
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