OK, I ordered it, but from the looks of the chapter titles, it is going to be a reiteration of the CDC RRs and the ACIP recommendations, but I shall see soon.
On Monday 15 November 2004 06:14 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Nancy, > > Here is a URL for the book (sorry about the > line-wraps): > > http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=ba691ePA >D9&isbn=1581100957&TXT=Y&itm=2 > > The full title is: > 2003 Red Book: Report of the Committee on Infectious > Diseases > > Among physicians, it is THE book for immunization > info. If you are going to be active in getting info > about immunizations, I recommend you get it. (It is > good for adults too) > > Kevin > > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I haven't seen the "Red Book", unless it is the CDC > > ACIP documents and the > > MMWR type Recommendations and Reports with a red > > cover on it. I would like > > to see more than the "relatively" simple give this > > here and this is how to > > catch up stuff. I would like to see the program tap > > into the record of the > > child and look for certain diseases or surgeries > > that might change what is > > done, keep track of the vaccine in the frig > > depending upon how many doses > > have been given, and fill out the expiration date, > > lot number, etc, on the > > consent forms, track changes in the VIS dates so > > that the latest one is > > always available, kept track of what vaccines were > > given when relative to > > timing of administration of other vaccines, > > especially the live vaccines, be > > cogniant of whether the child is premature or not, > > have an interface with > > vaccine registries, etc., etc. All a pile of work > > but a nice dream. > > > > On Monday 15 November 2004 04:47 pm, Kevin > > > > Toppenberg wrote: > > > Nancy, > > > > > > I have only been skimming these posts about > > > immunizations, so sorry if I am off track. > > > > > > Are you saying that your big hold up is the > > > > algorithm > > > > > for who gets immunized with what? > > > > > > I would refer you to the "Red book" that outlies > > > > who > > > > > should get what, and how to handle catch up > > > immunization, gaps etc etc. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > I think you must have missed my post that the > > > > DOD > > > > > > does not have it and the IHS > > > > pays for an excellent program to do it. What we > > > > need is an algorithm. The > > > > general description is relatively easy and has > > > > been > > > > > > done in one way or > > > > another on the CDC web site and in the document > > > > describing the IHS > > > > proprietary system. Just writing down what is > > > > needed is not needed so much > > > > as the hard work of figuring out the algorithm. > > > > > > > > On Monday 15 November 2004 03:33 pm, A. Forrey > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Pat wrote: > > > > > > Nancy, and all, > > > > > > Just got off the phone with my contact from > > > > the > > > > > > DC Vaccines for Children > > > > > > > > > > Program. > > > > > > He did some checking after I asked him about > > > > the > > > > > > CDC code. > > > > > > > > > > Basically it doesn't work, hasn't worked in > > > > a > > > > > > while and will not be > > > > > > > > > > supported. > > > > > > The CDC may have even sent queries from this > > > > > > > > group along to him since he > > > > > > > > > > remembers getting e-mails from CDC on > > > > similar > > > > > > subjects. > > > > > > > > > Nancy, Pat and all > > > > > > > > > > What would be most useful is a straighforward > > > > > > > > decription of 1) what were > > > > > > > > > the interaction (screens) and what were the > > > > data > > > > > > on the screens. 2) what > > > > > > > > > was staifactory or unsatisfactory about the > > > > entire > > > > > > dialog. 3) what would > > > > > > > > > have been most cognitively useful to > > > > pediatrians > > > > > > regarding child > > > > > > > > > immunizations. With that information, the > > > > > > > > descriptive documentation for > > > > > > > > > VistA can indicate what capability will be > > > > > > > > provided and what data may > > > > > > > > > already be in VIstA and what data will need to > > > > be > > > > > > added. The design team > > > > > > > > > can then look at the immunization function and > > > > its > > > > > > relationship to the > > > > > > > > > VA/DOD/IHS current functions and data > > > > structures > > > > > > and then working ( if > > > > > > > > > possible with the VA -with Camerons's guidance > > > > - > > > > > > and DoD/IHS) to propose > > > > > > > > > changes that will provide those capabilities > > > > (and > > > > > > later be part of FOIA > > > > > > > > > configurations). When you have some > > > > convergence on > > > > > > that then the > > > > > > > > > management of the Project to provide this > > > > > > > > (perhaps) different capability > > > > > > > > > that could then be a modular part of an (Open) > > > > > > > > VistA configuration could > > > > > > > > > begin and succeed in creating a architetcural > > > > > > > > component that could be > > > > > > > > > available via WV by whatever licensing > > > > arrangement > > > > > > is appropriate. DoD has > > > > > > > > > been immunizing folks for a long time so > > > > > > > > immunization data mangment > > > > > > > > > capbility amy already be present but it needs > > > > a > > > > > > different presentation. > > > > > > > > > IHS also has probably done this for Tribal > > > > health > > > > > > clinics. Lets learn > > > > > > > > > collbaoratively from what has been done. > > > > > > > > > > > The code he developed is proprietary and > > > > they > > > > > > have no plans to release > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > He did suggest a way to start tho. Generally > > > > > > > > most programs simply count > > > > > > > > > > doses of immunizations. He indicated it's > > > > not > > > > > > perfectly accurate since > > > > > > > > > > there are limitations on time depending on > > > > the > > === message truncated === > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE > FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines > robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match > for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members