I should apologize for being a bit behind the curve on this one. When I
initially suggested using "=" instead of "equals", it's because I was
wondering if it might result in a lookup by IEN without using INTERNAL.
I guess I should have just looked it up.
--- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wrong. When there is no index on the pointer field (even if
> there
> is an output transform) Fileman handles the lookup properly in the
> search dialog. That's not the problem.
>
> But if I an output transform of
>
> S Y="ABRA KADABRA"
>
> the search suddenly fails (though the lookup succeeds).
>
> --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That was my understanding, but consider thhat the basic symptom is
> > that
> > we are comparing a pointer field for equality after doing a lookup
> > (selection after entering the '=' condition), but Fileman fails to
> > find
> > a value when entering one lookup value ("kst"), but it does succeed
> > when entering the .01 value.
> >
> > I'm not suggesting that the SEARCH uses and index, but that the
> user
> > dialog makes use of an index when looking up a pointer value for
> > comparision purposes. I'll have to try it out under another
> scenario
> > and see if this occurs consistently.
> >
> > --- Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The A, B, C conditions don't use an index. They are 'if'
> > statements
> > > that are applied to records that are found by the SORT BY part of
> > the
> > >
> > > Search. Now, depending on how the SORT BY is constructed, it can
> > use
> > > an
> > > index or simply order through all the records of the file in
> record
> > > order.
> > >
> > > Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is the search dependant on an index? What if I were
> > > >to define a file that did not have an index. Would it
> > > >not be searchable? I thought it was sweeping through
> > > >all records in the given file.
> > > >
> > > >Regarding the DIC("PTRIX"), surely the end user is not
> > > >expected to do this...(?)
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >Kevin
> > > >
> > > >--- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>My guess is that Fileman in looking in the "B"
> > > >>cross-reference for
> > > >>"kst" and not finding it. When doing a DIC lookup, I
> > > >>think you need to
> > > >>set DIC("PTRIX") (I'm going by memory) if you want
> > > >>to look up a
> > > >>"pointed to" value using a different index.
> > > >>
> > > >>--- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>It would still be interesting to know if the
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>search fails when
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>entereing "TOPPENBERG, KEVIN" instead of "kst".
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--- Lloyd Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Something about the ENTERED BY field DD seems to
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>prevent the search
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>from
> > > >>>>working as expected. As you pointed out,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>initials are a valid
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>lookup
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>value.
> > > >>>>So why doesn't this work?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Lloyd
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>To: <[email protected]>
> > > >>>>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:33 AM
> > > >>>>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another example
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>of Fileman Search
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>being
> > > >>>>unreliable
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Ok, that does work.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>But as far as I am concerned, THIS IS A BUG!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Any reasonable user (and seasoned Fileman
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>users on
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>this board) can't figure this out.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Kevin
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>--- Lloyd Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>This has something to do with initials being
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>an
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>output transform. If you
> > > >>>>>>use INTERNAL(ENTERED BY), EQUALS, 73 it
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>should work.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>Lloyd
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>>>From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>>>To: <[email protected]>
> > > >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:59 AM
> > > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>example of
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>Fileman Search being
> > > >>>>>>unreliable
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Still doesn't work.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I went back to that particular record, and
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>reentered
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>value for ENTERED BY field. I entered
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>'kst', and
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>it
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>expanded to 'TOPPENBERG, KEVIN S' (By the
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>way,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>kst's
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>DUZ=73)
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I then looked at the data with VPE's VGL
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>function.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>Here it is. You can see that node;piece
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>13;2
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>(field
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>1302=ENTERED BY) here = 73 (Also, I looked
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>at the
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>global data for other documents that I had
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>not
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>re-entered, and they also were 73.)
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>==================================[Session
> > > >>>>>>>1]==================================
> > > >>>>>>> 1) ^TIU(8925,4299,0) =
> > > >>>>>>>1305^34245^^^7^^3041105^3041105^^18
> > > >>>>>>> 2) ^TIU(8925,4299,12) =
> > > >>>>>>>3050207.210339^74^^74^11^^^^74^^11
> > > >>>>>>> 3) ^TIU(8925,4299,13) = 3041105^73^U
> > > >>>>>>> 4) ^TIU(8925,4299,14) = ^^^3
> > > >>>>>>> 5) ^TIU(8925,4299,15) = ^74
> > > >>>>>>> 6) ^TIU(8925,4299,"TEXT",0) =
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>^^27^27^3050207^^
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> 7) ^TIU(8925,4299,"TEXT",1,0) =
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>I then re-ran the search. Still no
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>matches. Here
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>it
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>is:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: authOR
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>OF NOTE
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>AUTHOR/DICTATOR
> > > >>>>>>> -A- CONDITION: = EQUALS
> > > >>>>>>> -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: ptt THWING,PHILIP
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>T
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>ptt
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> PHYSICIAN
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: entereD
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>BY
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> -B- CONDITION: = EQUALS
> > > >>>>>>> -B- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>kst PHYSICIAN
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -C- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>IF: A&B AUTHOR/DICTATOR EQUALS 74
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>(THWING,PHILIP T)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> and ENTERED BY EQUALS 73
> > > >>>>>>>(TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
> > > >>>>>>>OR:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE: [TMG
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>SET
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> (Mar 20,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:09)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>User #73 File #8925 SEARCH
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>DATA ALREADY STORED THERE....OK TO PURGE?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>NO// y
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>YES
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>DESCRIPTION:
> > > >>>>>>>This can be used to store sets of records,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>for
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>working
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>with multiple
> > > >>>>>>>records etc.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Edit? NO//
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>SORT BY: NUMBER//
> > > >>>>>>>START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
> > > >>>>>>>FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01 DOCUMENT TYPE
> > > >>>>>>>THEN PRINT FIELD:
> > > >>>>>>>Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
> > > >>>>>>>DEVICE: TELNET
> > > >>>>>>>TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >> MAR
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>20,2005 07:34 PAGE 1
> > > >>>>>>>DOCUMENT TYPE
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > >
> >
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 0 MATCHES FOUND.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Thanks
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>Kevin
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>--- Floyd Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>>The problem appears to be with your data,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>not
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>with
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>FileMan.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>Look at the ENTERED BY field in your
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>record 4299.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>>>If it were reflecting a
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >=== message truncated ===
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