Regarding price - don't forget that if you strip it down to the speed of DSL the price gets more competitive. And 10 years ago the going rate for T1 was $2500. Things and prices happen fast in the world of telcom. What you really pay for is bandwidth. Shop around.
Regards, thurman > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] RE: T1s and security > > Thurman, > > Thanks for this great info. It still seems a bit > pricy, but we may have to end up going with it... > > Thanks > Kevin > > --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok. Let me try one more step. Agree there is some > > confusion - T1 has been > > around along time and is used in a variety > > applications (with many name > > modifications). Imagine 24 telphone lines each with > > a 64k modem and bonded > > into one data channel 1.536 mbps. Or just think of a > > trunk with 24 > > distributed telephone lines. Both exampls are > > applications of T1. Or you > > could have a T1 with 8 phone lines and the other 1/2 > > (768kbps) used as a > > data channel. This only a fraction of the > > versitility of T1. > > > > We manage two T1's - one as a connection to an ISP > > (through a firewall) and > > another one point to point at home. Actually, I > > prefer the term "nailed > > down" (also called "private line")T1, "however point > > to point" is more > > common usage. Nailed down is a cleaner term when > > talking with someone who > > knows what it means and it is pretty much considered > > "locked down" and > > secure. > > > > The advantage of T1, aside from security, is it has > > been around a long time > > and there is a lot of used equipment at great prices > > (Ebay). We connected > > via AT&T Paradyne DSU and a Ciscopro router (with > > Lan port) for something > > like 25% of what the Telcom charges. We also did our > > own programing and > > wiring (needs a crossover cable), after the Telcom > > installed a Hyperedge > > box. My advantage is to have two sons pretty > > sophisticated in networks and > > telephone systems. > > > > Bottom line - T1 has been around a long time and is > > probably the most stable > > of all phone connections. It can be secure, it can > > be connected to public > > networks - not secure. Equipment is affordable. It > > can be "full" T1 or it > > can be fractional (price dependant). The tarrif is > > typically based on how > > far (miles) the line travels. All these iterations > > may pass through multiple > > swithces. It is up to the telcom to assure security. > > Certainly it is more > > secure than a phone conversation. > > > > Sorry if trying for brevity confounded things. > > Welcome any comments or > > corrections of this post. > > > > Thanks, > > > > thurman > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:hardhats- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Cable One > > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:06 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Hardhats-members] RE: T1s and security > > > > > > I won't harp on this again... I promise. There > > seems to be a lot of > > > confusion about this and it can have bad > > consequences if the wrong > > > assumptions are made. > > > > > > Thurman, you're right a T1 is a hardwired (maybe) > > connection between two > > > locations. The network topology that you describe > > is secure because of the > > > topology not because it is a T1. The T1 is just a > > time domain digitally > > > multiplexed carrier of 24 64kb/sec DSOs. These > > DSOs can be agregated for a > > > full 1.54 Mb connection or can be sub-agregated > > (fractional). They can > > > carry > > > voice and/or data. > > > > > > Let me describe a T1 that is NOT secure. It is the > > one in my office. I > > > have > > > a T1 connection, the other end of which in located > > in the offices of a ISP > > > that belongs to some friends. The have an OC3 > > (45Mb/sec) connection that I > > > get to put my mail server on. This T1 is private > > in the sense that it > > > carries only what I put on it, but it is NOT > > secure because it IS part of > > > the public packet switched network we call the > > Internet. > > > > > > I would not assume that because you have a T1 that > > it is secure and that > > > firewalls are note required. Not to plug my own > > profession too much, but > > > it > > > is a good idea to have a network engineer look at > > your WAN design before > > > you > > > run medical data on it. > > > Thurman's T1, as he describes it, is secure > > because they are bringing the > > > internet into the network through another channel, > > and his T1 is already > > > behind a firewall. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Donald R. 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