What a relief! I was really worried there for an hour or so! On Thursday 28 July 2005 05:41 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > I should have been clearer. Some NDF patches include the med instructions > from First Databank. Those are (currently) excluded from the ftp site > where the patches are posted. However! The patches are applied to the > Cache and GT.M ready databases and the copyrighted material is purged > before zipping the databases. So the NDF FOIAable tables continue to be > available. I'm hoping VA can come up with a better way to post public > domain information in a timelier manner (and in smaller chunks, e.g. HL7 > messages) in the near future. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy > Anthracite > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Medication Order - No quick orders > available == > > Those commercial solutions are something that can and should be replaced by > the open source community and commercial vendors. > > So one can no longer get a copy of the NDF in the FOIA. Considering that it > is > a standard now, I would think the VA maintains it in a pristine form so > that > > it could be made available as a patch without much work. Is that not true? > > Also, it is available in an Access database here, > http://www.vapbm.org/PBM/natform.htm > so would it be difficult to format it for importation into the National > Drug > File within VistA? > > On Thursday 28 July 2005 01:46 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > > The NDF tables have the same internal entry numbers everywhere and are > > "locked down" so there should be no variations. Removing your old > > entries for the relevant files and copying in their current entries > > should work correctly. Note that part of NDF includes med instructions > > in English and Spanish that are under copyright and are therefore deleted > > from the Cache and GT.M ready zip files. Since it's too difficult to > > delete those > > entries > > > from the NDF patches as they get released, the patches are no longer > > posted. > > > > You can see which tables are involved in NDF by examining the COMPARE > > NATIONAL DRUG FILE 4.0 entry in the BUILD file and look at the list of > > tables in field 6 "FILE". > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy > > Anthracite > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:21 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Medication Order - No quick orders > > available == > > > > As I guess you have surmised from the ftp site, there does not seem to > > have > > > been a whole NDF made as a patch, but I believe Cameron had mentioned in > > the > > > > past that there would be one at some point. > > > > I think the NDF is in the FOIA release for Cache and should be fully > > patched, > > so perhaps Cameron can comment if you have a new clean installation if > > you can export the NDF. Actually, I don't think the mappings to the drug > > file would change, so I think exporting a NDF from a FOIA would work. > > Does anybody know ? > > > > On Thursday 28 July 2005 09:03 am, Thurman Pedigo wrote: > > > Nancy, > > > > > > Do you know where and what patches load the NDF? Does anyone know what > > > order those patches need application? Perhaps there is a manual for > > > that process? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > thurman > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:38 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Medication Order - No quick orders > > > > available == > > > > > > > > And the Cache is the demo. Now I see. No, those meds are not in > > > > OpenVistA. > > > > There are patches that load the National Drug File, but each > > > > institution populates their own drug file from what I understand. > > > > There are ways to take > > > > the one out of another VistA installation, like maybe out of the VA > > > > Demo, > > > > > > but > > > > I do not know how to do it. > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 27 July 2005 08:58 pm, Alberto Odor wrote: > > > > > The problem is that if I go to Medications, the list of medicines > > > > > does > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > show, as it does in the Caché installation. > > > > > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > > > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de > > > > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > Enviado el: Miércoles, 27 de Julio de 2005 06:52 p.m. > > > > > Para: [email protected] > > > > > Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Medication Order - No quick > > > > > orders available == > > > > > > > > > > You have to create quick pick orders if there aren't any already, > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > likely from what you have said. There is some information > > > > > available > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > CPRS manuals, but not a lot as I recall. > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 27 July 2005 04:19 pm, Alberto Odor wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have now a working GT.M install, and have created a patient, > > > > > > > > provider, > > > > > > > > > > location, clinic, ward, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can log in to CPRS an work on the admitted patient, assigning > > > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > > > > > procedures and other things. > > > > > > > > > > > > However if I try to assign medications, the Medication Order > > Window > > > > > says: > > > > > > No Quick Orders available. > > > > > > Do I need to install some kind of catalogue or something else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto Odor > > > > > > Mexico City > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & > > > > > > EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development > > > > > > Lifecycle > > > > > > > > > > Practices > > > > > > > > > > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * > > > > Testing > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > > > > > > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > > > September > > > > 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing > > & > > > > > QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > > > > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > > > > Practices > > > > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & > > > QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > > > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
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