Joseph,
By "forum style" do you mean the accumulated archives of an email list? I
know that hardhats has a vestigial forum which is not congruent with the wealth
of content that will be mined in the regular email list/archives ...it is that
mother lode that I am speaking about.
I have wrongly assumed that your invitation was to a forum but I now
realize that the link is to mailman listinfo for an email list instead. Whether
or not there is successful splitting of the community tools, I believe a forum
would be a better mode for either of the split. If a mother lode of VistaOffice
develops...it would be better served by a true forum for later mining.
I have heard of forums that cross post to a mailman archive ...but I have not
seen the application that will receive traditional email posts and cross post
them to a "forum" archive * as original copy+signature without redundant thread
copy* . What a deal ...everybody presented consistently without automated thread
copy in replies (as I am practicing below)! Wiki is yet another paradigm
Thanks for your work in making all this commotion.
Rusty aka Tyrus
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Tyrus,
The current list actually has a web based "forum style" that can present
messages by thread and a couple of other variants.....follow the link
below to the archive:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
IMHO, anything that is an important thread and needs to be more
organized than what we are using now should and deserves to be in a Wiki
where it can be turned into something useful.
As for the VistA Office EHR list it too is based on Sourceforge and uses
the same software as this list.
Joseph
TyrusMaynard wrote:
I am posting with a specific topic, but want to thank David Sommers
for his recent post expressing caution about "splitting" discussion
between
the new VistaOffice (which is a forum) and the historically unified
hardhats (which of course is a mail list) I don't have a confident
answer for that, but
I am reviving an older question *will hardhats convert to a forum style*
I believe the time to convert is now, although I realize some
folks might still prefer the email mode (and if the tools are
difficult to maintain identical content in both emaillist and forum
application modes, I think forum should be the sole choice)
For Friday 7/29 there were about 150 email postings, but volume is
not the entire issue. The threads are long (which is proof of effort)
and problem solving and teaching is a multifocal conversation
necessarily. I think a *forum is much more readable* than a
succession of emails, whether in your own cherished mail client or in
the archives of hardhats. Email clients and archives require a click
to move to each new post and often have confusing styles for the
sequence of pasting past copy into a reply. *Forum mode transcends the
pasting of prior thread content* and it presents a cleaner read for
pasting into your PIM or linking into other sites like wiki etc ( I do
wish that the HTML of forum archives treated each forum post as a
document anchor for more granular linking)
If we believe that our postings should have the discipline to leave a
trail of solutions ....that alone speaks for using a forum archive so
that content is more readable by subsequent visitors (not to mention
our interacting usage)
If it is appropriate to have the OpenOffice/hardhats split according
to the guidelines just now posted by Joseph , I think it is all the
more important to convert hardhats to forum, if only to handle the
additional traffic that will occur on hardhats. That said it's
probably valuable to have the forum interface just for readability.
Right now there is not a large mass of forum content in the
universe of hardhats/worldvista/mumps/gtm to reflect upon, but visit
this link as an example of a mature sourceforge project with lots of
history to feed newcomers:
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10226
Pick a thread with 20 or 30 replies and consider its readability.
Now read this archive of Hardhats email thread (on the topic of
OpenForum)
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10218400
Thanks for David Sommers link to the excellent article on technical
tools and social actions
http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
Now that the VistaOffice has been given its guidelines and vehicle
as a forum, the core group that guides hardhats must face these
questions on the mode for handling big traffic at hardhats. I don't
know the methods for this decision among venerable hardhats, but after
some discussion and some process that probably thankfully won't be
called voting...I'm sure everyone can take whatever changes in stride.
Rusty Maynard
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