At the risk of being shot on sight, I like the long accumulated tails of stuff in the emails on threads. I find myself grumbling when they are not there and I am trying to figure something out from them.
I have to admit that Open Forum's way of handling those tails was the first time I had seen something like that and it was pretty darn slick. But the remaining aspects of forum would likely scare away new and maybe even older users in droves. On Monday 01 August 2005 12:44 pm, TyrusMaynard wrote: > I want to do some summary on this thread plus some points found on other > recent threads that are related (disclaiming that I represent any other) > > *when I initiated this topic I mistakenly thought that VistaOffice would be > deploying the *forum* tools at sourceforge, but instead it has been setup > as a mailman list and will have forum in its name only > (I hope that VistaOffice will convert to *true forum* ex post facto(in > consolation for the likelihood that hardhats will keep it's status quo)) > > * it is observed that increased traffic at hardhats is ominous and it is > uncertain if a forum application will make it easier to read the volume of > content (or if efficiency for hardhats is substantially a readability > problem). > > * although some posts favor switching to forum, others are neutral, and > some are strongly against it, due to simplicity of email > > * many agree that email reading, and the resulting archive generated, > suffers from too much *redundant thread history copying* with differing > styles of top posting or bottom posting. This is automated and configured > habit on our client tools. > (For an *good* example of someone on hardhats who posts with only judicious > use of pasted thread copy, sort by "Mike Lieman". To see > automated,redundant habitual thread copy, look at posting by almost anybody > else (including me (except for this post))) > > *even if hardhats ever converts entirely to a forum there are reasons why > OpenForum/VA Forum should not be the choice for interfacing with a variety > of newcomer traffic (regardless of its good features or the benefit of its > related Vista infrastructure) > > * it is unclear whether a *forum* application causes participants to be > more conscious of presentation (I believe it does, since a forum thread > reads more like a transcribed dialogue/multilogue and you don't have to > click on links to see all parts of the dialogue in a single document web > document) > > * even if wiki is a special application where participants clearly are > building the de facto final appearance of documents, a massive amount of > content will continue to reside in the transactions of this hardhats > community list or a hardhats community forum. > ( therefore the community needs to periodically ask whether its accumulated > content is well presented in final form (not just day to day use). Is it > easily read in archive form and searchable?) > > * everyone wants one dependable location for hardhats content > (so any partial migration of participants or content to any test platform > will likely fail, there can be no gradual transition) (so why change the > status quo?) > > * deciding to move from topicA to another email list was easy. Deciding to > change to another application for the entire community (whatever the hoped > for benefits) is not easy and can only be asserted by the formal core > leaders of a community and those informally recognized by prevailing > tradition) ( this thread is only one installment in these types of > discussions over time) > > Well, this is probably my final post on this thread and I hope I have been > fair in summary and conjecture... until another installment of this topic > on some future thread ....when someone might dig this thread out of the > hardhats archives for reference ...there is no easy reading. > Rusty Maynard > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
