Could you clarify the difference between indirect references and references.
And programming without indirection would be like programming without pointers. I guess they accomplish it in Java and C#, but it is certainly central to Delphi and c++, my two languages of choice. Kevin On 8/25/05, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Indirection/All about programming > > > > On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 15:47, James Gray wrote: > >> Of course that uses indirection which is what Ruben was saying we should > >> never do. Indirection is powerful and very useful in Mumps. > >> Jim > >> > > > > I never said that. What I said was that indirect references was not a > > great language construction. And that references are better. But you > > have to make do with what you got. > > > > Ruben > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:34 PM > >> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: All about programming > >> > >> > >> A while back I posted code that used globals to store object-like > >> data. Once can put functions (or references to functions) into a > >> string (stored in the object) and then executed with the "xecute" > >> command. > >> > >> Thus one could shoe-horn object orientated behavior from M > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> > >> On 8/25/05, Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I don't think you can, from what little I've seen > >> > > >> > Ruben > >> > > >> > On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:27, James Gray wrote: > >> > > Ruben, > >> > > Can you tell us how to do this in Mumps? > >> > > > >> > > Jim Gray > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:12 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] All about programming > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 19:41 -0700, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > >> > > >> There's always the alternative of "the big switch", but it > >> > > >> has it's own problems. How would you handle these cases? > >> > > > > >> > > > You have real references, real pointers or an associative array > for > >> > > > the > >> > > > dispatch table. 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