Greg:
The issue of "implementation language" is part of the "Enterprise View, Life Cycle Principles" perspective on the whole VistA architecture. The Open Source character of the effort and the model base for the architecture being tied to the VA makes constraints. Since the open value utilizes, for the present, the VA's design it must accept the present VA model until a Common Data Model for the Conceptual Content has been arrived at and then discussions about a different design for implementation of the common model can be entertained. There is latitude in different configurations for the same architecture (different terminologies value set, and referential data for different enterprises) for differing business purposes. All of this is in the realm of "implementation" but does involve some common agreements on components of the physical architecture that keep the technical configurations relatively limited. THat can all be managed by Life Cycle Principles and Processes (consider the Capability Maturity Model Discipline from the CMU-SEI VA study). An information architecture as complex as VistA needs a discipline. Principles and Procedures can be applied to a M environment as well as other environments and is relevant to all aspects.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:

A related question is whether an *implementation* language is needed to facilitate discussion of health information systems. If we are really discussing specifications or design, rather than implementations, then doesn't the use of an implementation language in this context blur this fundamental distinction (and, I would add, tend to contribute to poor design)?

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On Sep 13, 2005, at 9:43 AM, A. Forrey wrote:

Greg:
you have to understand that standards are common conventions for communicatiing about a spubject. The common misundertsatnding is that they are "specifications". If you cant communicate clearly then you are just not in the ballgame; the MDC just keeps us in the ballgame rather than wandering blind and ignorant in the desert. It takes all players communicating to get the bennies and there are many wys to do that but this notice from ONCHIT is "Communicate or you're not in the game!". The VistA Community has to figure out how they will be in the WHOLE game; MUMPS deals with the technology platform for VistA - that all; but without it you have to go out and re-engineer the whole architecture at great cost (maybe the VA uppercrust has that in mind, it remains to be seen). The log cabin era is over, so that technology platform role of MUMPS is one building bl;oick, so lets do it right. Sorry to be so blunt but that reality.

Arden




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