Linus us not a god for sure.  And he has obviously never dealt with a client
who keeps changing specs in the middle of a project but refuses to pay you.


Blah....


Linus can't figure out what DRM is or the meaning of Free SOftware either.


Ruben

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 07:48:01PM -0400, Roy Gaber wrote:
> Gotta love Linus, he knows how to get the blood boiling.
> 
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> Woodhouse
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:15 PM
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> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Linus Torvalds on specifications
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> >From today's ACM Tech News (note that I do not necessarily agree):
> 
> "Linus Torvalds Outburst Sparks Fierce Debate: Does Open Source
> Software Need Specs?"
> SYS-CON (10/03/05) 
> In a recent posting on the Linux Kernel Mailing List, Linus Torvalds
> blasted specs as a method for developing software, claiming they pay
> more attention to theory than reality and introduce a needless level of
> abstraction that often falls flat when put into practice. Torvalds
> cited the OSI network model protocols, which he characterized as
> "classic spec-design, which had absolutely zero relevance for the real
> world." He admitted that specs could serve as a useful framework for
> discussion, but that they should have no bearing on the actual design.
> Feedback to Torvalds' posting was varied, as some immediately took him
> to task, insisting that specs, like actual code, were by definition
> approximations, while others supported his view that their use is
> limited. One respondent noted that many original Unix specs were quite
> good, while later standards such as HTML and SOAP were well-written,
> but ultimately functioned poorly due to sloppy designs. One post
> criticized Torvalds for being too narrow in his definition, claiming
> that his view of a spec as an unchanging template incapable of adapting
> throughout the development process is not held by anyone in the
> industry. Another reader claimed specs are essential to commercial
> projects, as they serve essentially as a contract, defining the scope
> and function of a given body of code. By way of mediation, one
> respondent sought to clarify Torvalds' position by arguing against the
> misconception that programs can be written through the progressive
> revision of specifications, when really specs are useful insofar as
> they can guide a discussion, but must yield to technical requirements
> as the development process unfolds.
> 
> <http://fr.sys-con.com/read/136960.htm>
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> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> "Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries
> would not have been made."
> 
> -- Albert Einstein
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