On Dec 19, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:

The first and only time I went to George Mason to work with a class, some of these very issues were discussed in a question and answer session. I did not pull any punches. I told them there were things that just were not going to work outside like the do inside the VA. I explained the students could be
partners in the improvement process.  They were already helping with
debugging some templates during the first class.

Okay, I like that approach, especially for a Masters level class. No doubt, your students are going to have some idea of what they'd like to see in a health information system, and VistA provides an opportunity to make it happen.

The long an the short of why it is being used is that it is a comprehensive system that is open source and thus can be thoroughly poked, prodded and
utilized like no other.

Hmm...I'm with you on "poked and prodded", that's what we do all the time! But utilized is another story: Who is actually using VistA? How? What are they able to do with it that they couldn't do with another system? Does the extra investment into learning the system prove a valuable investment? (Note: I am not say it isn't, only suggesting that this is a question that needs to be considered carefully.)

Whether or not students ultimately implement a VistA
system after they leave the university, they will get experience implementing
A system

Yes. and one reason I think Unix is a good operating system for academic use (aside from simply being a good operating system!) is that it allows you to get "close to the metal". I suspect learning your way around Unix would make you a better Windows programmer, too, if you were so inclined. But notice that Unix isn't just an "academic toy", it has proved to be a very solid and capable operating system.

(and yes, they hope to use it in real world situations) and as best
I can tell from the conferences I have been to, there are recurring themes in
every implementation that need to be dealt with.

And what might they be (just a thought question)? More to the point: What is it that makes them recurring themes? That's the kind of question that helps us to delimit the field and understand better what the basic problems are.

From what I understand, some of the questions you are asking will be subjects
to be investigated by the students as part of the class.

Now, that's interesting -- really. One approach might be to ask what the basic problems are and WHY they are problems.


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