I did find two entries that were close, but not exactly the same.:

NOVOLOG MIX 70 30 INSULIN ASPART SUSPENSION     
  30;70UNT;UNT  
  00169-3685-12         
  1     
  VIAL  
  SUBCUTANEOUS  R

NOVOLOG MIX 70 30 INSULIN ASPART SUSPENSION     
  30;70UNT;UNT  
  00169-3685-92         
  1     
  VIAL  
  SUBCUTANEOUS  R


Kevin


On 3/25/06, Bill Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Just an FYI about the FDA database:  it's not complete.  I took a look at it
> about a week or so ago and entered one of my meds.  It wasn't there.  The
> manufacturer was.  A whole bunch of their meds were.  But not the one I use.
> I sent an email letting them know and asking "why?"  No reply received to
> date.  The info from the prescription is included below so you can see for
> yourself.
>
> Best regards,
> Bill
>
> Drug name: Novolin Insulin 70/30 Human
> Mfg: Novo Nordisk
> NDC: 00169-1837-11
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hardhats Sourceforge" <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: 2006-03-25 7:36 AM
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy question: matching ingredients
>
>
> I have a question for the pharmacists on the message board:
>
> As I am processing the 280,000 entries in the FDA database, I am
> matching first by NDC.  If that fails, I then have a drug that
> potentially needs to be added to the VA PRODUCT file.
>
> In order for the drug to work with drug-interaction testing later, the
> drug INGREDIENTS of the new addtion need to match with existing VistA
> ingredients.  But here lies my problem.  A great many drugs fail to
> match ingredients.
>
> Here is one example:
>
> FDA: ceftazidime pentahydride
> VistA: ceftazidime
>
> In this example, I feel fairly comfortable matching these.  But if I
> make a rule that says, "if simple comparison doesn't match, then allow
> matching based on FIRST word only", then I worry that I will create a
> match between two ingredients that shouldn't be matched.
>
> So my question is: Is this worry valid?  Are there ingredients where
> the second or third words DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
>
> Next, there are going to be new substances/ingredients that have been
> released by the FDA that have not previously been put into the VA
> PRODUCT file, or the INGREDIENTS file.  For example, Spiriva
> (tiotropium), I don't know if this is in my VA PRODUCT file or not,
> but let's assume it is new enough that it is not already there.  To
> add this as a new drug, I will need to add a new ingredient,
> TIOTROPIUM.
>
> But then what about the DRUG INTERACTIONS functionality?  I haven't
> studied this part yet, but I assume there is a file somewhere that
> lists drug interactions and ingredients that cause them.  If I don't
> have drug interaction data for new drugs, but do have it for old
> drugs, then providers will have a system that only works some of the
> time --> dangerous.  In the VA system, I assume that new drugs are
> added one at a time by a pharmacist, on an as-needed basis.
>
> Question: Where do they get their information about drug interactions?
>  There must be some database that they access, which should be
> continually updated.  If so, is this a commercial product, or is it
> public and I could download it somewhere?
>
> I guess another option would be to simply add the new ingredients and
> then shut off the drug interaction system so that no warnings are
> generated (rather than just some of the time), and we would have the
> same situation as we do now, where doctors write prescriptions on
> paper and the pharmacist at the pharmacy fills the order (and *might*
> do some interaction checking).  This is not a bad solution...
>
> Perhaps my work to automatically add missing drugs from the FDA
> database has been doomed from the start because there is not enough
> data there.  (Other missing data is the maximum and minum doses,
> though I think our site can get by without this.)  But frankly, the
> pharmacy system can't work if the doctors can't order ANY drug.  And I
> feel I have established that we are not going to be able to tap into
> the up-to-date VA PRODUCT file maintained by the VA somewhere.  And
> even this will not likely contain ALL the drugs (i.e. pediatric drugs,
> birth control tablets, labor & delivery drugs etc etc.)
>
> Your thoughts would be appreciated
>
> Kevin
>
>
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