On 7/6/05, Hayes Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What exactly did the Grokster advertisements state? If it was something so > blatantly stupid like "download our client to get free pirated movies > instead of paying for them" then boo hoo, capitalistic darwinism strikes > again. > > At some point people here need to realize that 99.9999999999999999999% of
So what, what difference my recording off TV or downloading off the Internet? An injustice? Please, the Constitution (Article 1, Clause 8) states for a LIMITED time. Last I looked, Steamboat Willy is yet to enter the public domain, legislation is also being looked at to extend copyright out past it's current 95 years or life plus 70, the public good and innovation are certainly not being served. Please, the media companies certainly do not need your sympathy for abducting our culture. > what is being downloaded on P2P networks is pirated material, and that is an > injustice, no matter how evil you percieve the music/movie industries. P2P > software will always be around but companies that are dumb enough to > instruct you on how to acquire pirated media deserve zero sympathy. > > Should gun companies be allowed to show how to use a firearm to rob a bank? No, but gun companies aren't being sued for producing the facilitating technology. > (The 0-60 comparison post is way off the mark) Not necessarily, downloading, like speeding are both laws that a broken daily by people who don't really think they're doing anything wrong, they do it because they can and, with the advent of p2p and broadband, also do it because it's easy. > > >From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> > >To: j m g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Hardware List > ><[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [H] Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. et al. v. Grokster, > >Ltd.,et al. > >Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:46:01 -0400 > > > >They should just sue the internet for making it easy to pirate movies. > > > >I wish people would stop going to the movies and stop buying music in > >response to these stupid lawsuits. Ultimately, fair-use rights are going to > >be eliminated, and we'll all be forced to live in a safe, happy DRM land, > >where the thought police kill you if you press the "record" button when > >you're not allowed to. > > > >j m g wrote: > >>But what it also doesn't do is give clarity to allowing the suits in > >>the first place. They've opened the door to folks to let the courts > >>decide if there was any 'promotion of infringement' by the hardware or > >>software vendors. > >> > >>My Subaru's tv ad had 0-60 times as 5.4 secs - are they promoting > >>reckless driving? Can they be sued for it? > >> > >>What someone does with tools they've purchased should be their own > >>responsibility. A vague ruling like this will kill funding of > >>projects that have market potential simply because of litigation > >>fears. > > > -- -jmg Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit. Henry Brooks Adams [1838-1918]
