Ethanol is a boondoggle.  It has been demonstrated that it takes more
fossil fuel is used to create Ethanol than it provides in return.  
Ethanol programs are nothing more that governments subsidies for ADM.

-Gary



jeff.lane said the following on 8/17/2005 3:43 PM:

> Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys, we are getting
> screwed! The oil companies have been crying for years that oil prices
> are way behind inflation. I say, so what! I thought the idea was to
> keep inflation down in the first place. The Government needs to
> include fuel and food in the inflation indicators. Of course, if they
> do prime interest rates would be at 50% or more by now!
>
> We have plenty of alternatives to gas and battery....so why not use
> them? We all know why. I think if this keeps up, and I see no reason
> for it not too(with the oil companies' and Arab greed....can you say
> jihad in disguise), we will see a flood of small companies offering
> conversions to anything from chicken manure to corn flakes.
>
> BTW. Our new piece of crap Governor just signed a 9.5 cent increase in
> our state gas taxes......highest in the US......again! OH......$6.00
> per carton increase for cigarettes, $6.00 per gallon booze,
> reinitiated the only estate taxes, and a whole lot more. We really
> need that right now!
>
> Sorry....had a senior moment and had to get that out. My fixed income
> will go up about $2.50 a month. Chris, you're right....I will not do
> math in class............................
>
> Jeff
>
> From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
>
>
>> A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It
>> cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself.
>>
>> Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :(
>>
>>> From: 007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Wed Aug 17 13:26:05 CDT 2005
>>> To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
>>
>>
>>> The most fuel efficient cars use heavy water.
>>>
>>> 007.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher
>>> Fisk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:16 PM
>>> To: The Hardware List
>>> Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's funny, though, that the gas companies are posting record profits.
>>>> So I really wonder how much of this is an increase in oil price,
>>>> and how
>>>> much is just an excuse to charge more for gasoline.
>>>
>>>
>>> I look at it this way, assuming that a gas company wants to make 5%
>>> profit
>>> on every gallon of gas, it's in thier interest to have thier costs
>>> go up
>>> 5% because then thier profit goes up too.
>>>
>>> Instead of making 5cents on gas that costs them $1.00 to make they
>>> make 6
>>> cents profit on gas that cost them $1.05 to make (Or similar, you
>>> get my
>>> point =)
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, the gas we have now was made with oil that cost $50/barrel
>>> instead
>>> of oil that cost $65/barrel, yet we're being charged the $65/barrel
>>> price!
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Fisk
>>> -- 
>>> I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
>>> I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
>>> Lisa Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF07
>>
>

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