Re: [H] Gas prices

[Hayes Elkins]

What happened to moonshiners and the whiskey running mafia filth of the 
30's?

From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:24:10 -0500

That is one of the most ludicrous arguments being tossed about by the
legalizing drugs crowd.  What in God's name makes you think that
organized crime will walk away from their BILLION dollar empires?  Tax
the drugs??  LOL.

-Gary



Eli Allen said the following on 8/25/2005 10:24 AM:

> A few minor changes I'd make.  First, I'm assuming the drugs are
> actually very cheap to make.  So I say tax them very highly and they
> should still be cheaper then drugs are now and so prevent a black
> market,  These taxes are what should be used to pay for all the
> regulation and treatment efforts.
>
> Second, there needs to be a law that first defines what recreational
> drugs are and second allowing discrimination against people who use
> them.  This allows for an additional incentive to keep people off the
> drugs.  I do believe the drugs do bad things to you to can cause your
> medical bills to go up and keep you from being as good of an employee
> from how it effects your mind so its not fair for the many who don't
> use the drugs.
>
> Third, and probably the measure to enact first, medical research
> should never be limited arbitrarily because a chemical is considered a
> recreational drug.  A chemical is a chemical and they all have side
> effects, you just need to balance the good parts and the bad.
>
> Eli
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/22227/ - Decriminalization
>> arguement.  Sounds pretty good to me...
>>
>> On 8/25/05, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Freed up space in prisons better suited to real criminals.
>>>
>>> >From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >Date: Thu Aug 25 09:31:48 CDT 2005
>>> >To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
>>> >Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices
>>>
>>> >What happened in China when they legalized drugs?  What about Needle
>>> >park in Zurich?  Can you cite one example where the legalization of
>>> >drugs solved any social ills?
>>> >
>>> >-Gary
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Stan Zaske said the following on 8/25/2005 3:04 AM:
>>> >
>>> >> BC Bud! Didn't you see the prime time report? They sell it in
>>> shops on
>>> >> the streets using the best seeds from around the globe! Gotta love
>>> >> British Columbia! <g>
>>> >>
>>> >> What hypocrisy that we still haven't learned "Prohibition" doesn't
>>> >> work even after all the organized crime that came as a result of
>>> >> "criminalization"! Try to do the same with tobacco and see what
>>> >> happens! So what if you smoke a bowl in the evening to relax? Who's
>>> >> business is it anyway? Our money would be better spent on public
>>> >> education and rehab rather than interdiction and criminalization!
>>> >> Addictive behavior is associated with "self-esteem" and that's 
where
>>> >> our focus should be! So much for wisdom in government!
>>> >>
>>> >> warpmedia wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Well there sure is some dynamite hemp floating around somewhere
>>> these
>>> >>> days! LOL
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Was just in Vancouver for 8 days and never got over to the little
>>> >>> Amsterdam area to see what all the fuss was about. Of course there
>>> >>> was the fear of the transaction in the back of my mind since that
>>> >>> seems to be the law the get you on rather than possession or use.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> FORC5 wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> "Over 25,000 products can be manufactured from hemp, from
>>> cellophane
>>> >>>> to dynamite."
>>> >>>> Popular Mechanics, 1938
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> At 02:27 AM 8/24/2005, Stan Zaske Poked the stick with:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Better yet, grow female hemp to ferment into methane and sell 
the
>>> >>>>> buds to Canada. <g>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> gibney wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Industrial hemp, digested to methane and powering fuel cells.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -jmg
>>
>> Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit.
>> Henry Brooks Adams [1838-1918]
>>
>>
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