You are probably right about my usage and dual core. For about the same price as the X2 3800+ I could get the San Diego 4000+, but that does not seem like a huge jump in speed. I am going to search for some reviews of the two processors and see what the performance difference is. I am curious about dual core and would like to play with one so I am still leaning toward the X2.

I am glad to hear you have found the NF4 a solid platform. Did you install the nVidia IDE drivers or are you just using the Windows drivers? What about the nVidia firewall? Any other tips for me when I begin my build?

Thanks,
Jerry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Going dual core CPU - suggestions?


I think that for your usage, dual core would be a waste of money. Get a NF4U/NF4SLI s939 board, and a Venice or San Diego chip. 2GB would be nice, but with 2x1GB sticks, forget any memory overclocking.

A dual-core/SMP platform is really only useful if you do a lot of stuff that benefits from multithreading (none of which you mention do) or do heavy multitasking (3 programs is nothing--I average about 20-40 windows open on my X2). I think you would experience better performance from a fast single core solution at this time.

As far as NF4 problems, this is probably the most solid platform I've ever had. (NF4U on the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum board).

Greg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:16 AM
Subject: [H] Going dual core CPU - suggestions?


I am planning an upgrade to my main PC which is currently running:
Abit IC7-MAX3
Pentium 4 - 2.4Ghz (oc'd to 3.1)
1GB Ram
Radeon 9800 Pro

Going to put those parts in the kids PC and am thinking I would like to go dual core. Would like to do some overclocking and I spend most of the time using the PC for email, internet, MS Office, DVArchive (shows form my ReplayTVs), burning CD/DVDs, and some gaming. Typically I have more than 3 programs open and running so I figure I might benefit a little from a dual core while multitasking. Have been reading a lot on the various forums such as Anadtech, HardOCP, etc. and it seems like the general consensus is that the AMD X2 3800+ is the best choice right now, but I am not opposed to Intel. Planning on using 2GB of RAM and just a single video card for the time being but am considering an SLI board just so I would have the option in the future.

At one point I had thought I would go with the X2 3800+ and the Abit AN8 Fatality SLI . I have had good luck with my MAX3 and other Abits in the past, but there seems to be lots of little problems with the board on the forums. So I looked at the DFI and ASUS offerings, but they too seem to have problems. Then I think that maybe it would be simpler to go with a Intel 820 or 830 and not have to deal with the NF4 software problems (many say the nVidia IDE driver, firewall, or the AMD cool and quiet software all can cause problems). I do try to take what I see in the forums with a grain of salt, I realize that most people post when they have a problem.

So, help me choos the following:

dual core CPU:
Motherboard:
Video ($200-300 range):
RAM 2 x 1GB:


Jerry










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